Israeli soldiers raiding a hospital in northern Gaza desecrated the bodies of deceased patients with bulldozers, let a military dog maul a man in a wheelchair, and shot multiple doctors even after vetting them, according to allegations by staffers and patients at Kamal Adwan hospital, where Israeli forces spent eight days last week.
Sorry, can you point me to the specific part of that article that says many of the doctors are Hamas? Because what I read is this:
In the first three weeks of the current operation, Swords of Iron, the civilian proportion of total deaths rose to 61%, in what Levy described as “unprecedented killing” for Israeli forces in Gaza. The ratio is significantly higher than the average civilian toll in all the conflicts around the world from the second world war to the 1990s, in which civilians accounted for about half the dead, according to Levy.
“The broad conclusion is that extensive killing of civilians not only contributes nothing to Israel’s security, but that it also contains the foundations for further undermining it,” Levy concluded. “The Gazans who will emerge from the ruins of their homes and the loss of their families will seek revenge that no security arrangements will be able to withstand.”
The study confirms an investigation 10 days ago by the Israeli-Palestinian publication +972 Magazine and the Hebrew-language outlet Local Call, which found Israel was deliberately targeting residential blocks to cause mass civilian casualties in the hope people would turn on their Hamas rulers. The figures will make uneasy reading for the Biden administration, which is facing global criticism and isolation for vetoing a UN security council vote for a ceasefire on Friday.
Holy shit. TIL the civilian death toll in Gaza isn’t that much greater than the average war per capita. I knew all war sucked but I didn’t know they were all like this
What do you mean “isn’t that much greater”? The Haaretz study shows a civilian death rate of around 61%, whereas prior conflicts in Gaza had a civilian death rate of 33% to 40%, and the article says the 61% level is unprecedented. A 20%-30% increase is an insane number of additional dead.
Yes. Those are also facts. They do not change the one you left out. The average is 50%. There has obviously been escalation above the average from being below it. That was not my comment. 60 from 50 isn’t as much of a difference than I’d expected. This all looks so terrible. But apparently that’s the norm
Dude… you would think based on the news it was 99% total, or 500x the norm. I haven’t even heard of a militant killed in months. So maybe 1.2x sounds right to you. Based on the media I consume, I expected literally 3 to 5x if not exponentially more.
I’d love to be so cynical as you, to see a 20% increase in civillian casualties in a region famous for collateral damage, and go “huh that’s not so much, nothing is happening”. Some people need to learn empathy.
Stop being an idiot.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/09/civilian-toll-israeli-airstrikes-gaza-unprecedented-killing-study
Sorry, can you point me to the specific part of that article that says many of the doctors are Hamas? Because what I read is this:
Holy shit. TIL the civilian death toll in Gaza isn’t that much greater than the average war per capita. I knew all war sucked but I didn’t know they were all like this
What do you mean “isn’t that much greater”? The Haaretz study shows a civilian death rate of around 61%, whereas prior conflicts in Gaza had a civilian death rate of 33% to 40%, and the article says the 61% level is unprecedented. A 20%-30% increase is an insane number of additional dead.
Yes. Those are also facts. They do not change the one you left out. The average is 50%. There has obviously been escalation above the average from being below it. That was not my comment. 60 from 50 isn’t as much of a difference than I’d expected. This all looks so terrible. But apparently that’s the norm
50% to 60% is an increase of 20% which is pretty large.
It’s a 20% increase and 10% of the total, which is massive.
Dude… you would think based on the news it was 99% total, or 500x the norm. I haven’t even heard of a militant killed in months. So maybe 1.2x sounds right to you. Based on the media I consume, I expected literally 3 to 5x if not exponentially more.
I’d love to be so cynical as you, to see a 20% increase in civillian casualties in a region famous for collateral damage, and go “huh that’s not so much, nothing is happening”. Some people need to learn empathy.