The US extended its claims on the ocean floor by an area twice the size of California, securing rights to potentially resource-rich seabeds at a time when Washington is ramping up efforts to safeguard supplies of minerals key to future technologies.
China attempts to maintain their territorial claims in the South China Sea after the Philippines and Vietnam conduct island-building operations there in the early-00s: CHINA BAD!!!
America expanding their territorial claims in the Pacific because they want more natural resources: Yeah, this is fine and reasonable and democratic.
Canada, who gets no say in the matter because we’re entirely reliant on the US for trade and defence: fuck, eh?
One of these claims is compatible with UNCLOS, the other absolutely is not. The US pulls plenty of international dickery, including not ratifying UNCLOS, but this claim fits within that existing international law just fine
It should be noted that claim is not the same as the better-known exclusive economic zone. The continental shelf thing is only for seabed resources, not stuff in the water column. But that’s all that the US is claiming, so it is indeed in line with UNCLOS
I’d argue that expanding the zones a bit doesn’t incur costs other than updating some maps, as existing radar systems etc were already reaching into the newly claimed areas, undoubtedly.
Am I worried about my country’s creeping reach, and have I suddenly realized there’s yet another way to slowly encroach on territory? Yes.
So ngl when we say death to America that also includes Canada as another terrible settler state with a horrid fucking past and still pretty shit present, so like to be honest don’t really care when a modern day fascist state is consuming/fucking over it’s smaller petite fash state upstairs neighbor.
What hypocrisy? It’s like if Nazi Germany decided to gobble up fascist Italy, both horrid rancid countries deserving of destruction. Fascist countries don’t get to play victim when they get devoured by a larger fascist state they work alongside as a literal 2nd player in the North American stage.
Just to be sure we are talking about Canada right?
China attempts to maintain their territorial claims in the South China Sea after the Philippines and Vietnam conduct island-building operations there in the early-00s: CHINA BAD!!!
America expanding their territorial claims in the Pacific because they want more natural resources: Yeah, this is fine and reasonable and democratic.
Canada, who gets no say in the matter because we’re entirely reliant on the US for trade and defence: fuck, eh?
China bad
America bad
Simple
One of these claims is compatible with UNCLOS, the other absolutely is not. The US pulls plenty of international dickery, including not ratifying UNCLOS, but this claim fits within that existing international law just fine
Except it’s not really compatible with UNCLOS.
The US interpretation of UNCLOS would allow them to claim like half the Pacific
What do you think isn’t in line with it? This isn’t an exclusive economic zone claim.
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There are 58 articles in part XI. Which ones are you talking about?
Nice whataboutism.
Stick to the point, though. This is a dick move (increasing the territorial claims, that is - not pointing out whataboutism, that’s all good!)
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It should be noted that claim is not the same as the better-known exclusive economic zone. The continental shelf thing is only for seabed resources, not stuff in the water column. But that’s all that the US is claiming, so it is indeed in line with UNCLOS
I’d argue that expanding the zones a bit doesn’t incur costs other than updating some maps, as existing radar systems etc were already reaching into the newly claimed areas, undoubtedly.
Am I worried about my country’s creeping reach, and have I suddenly realized there’s yet another way to slowly encroach on territory? Yes.
E: why the downvotes?
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I find it amazing how every time you see the shittiest take in this community, it’s a lemmy.ml user. It never fails.
That or hexbear but yeah
No, they’re both bad
Not allowing your fledgling government to simply be devoured by the world empire doing illegal empire shit is as bad as being the empire.
Do you also think having a gun for protection is the same as having a gun for robbing people?
So ngl when we say death to America that also includes Canada as another terrible settler state with a horrid fucking past and still pretty shit present, so like to be honest don’t really care when a modern day fascist state is consuming/fucking over it’s smaller petite fash state upstairs neighbor.
Nor do I, but it’s the hypocrisy that interests me
What hypocrisy? It’s like if Nazi Germany decided to gobble up fascist Italy, both horrid rancid countries deserving of destruction. Fascist countries don’t get to play victim when they get devoured by a larger fascist state they work alongside as a literal 2nd player in the North American stage.
Just to be sure we are talking about Canada right?
Which one is the fledgling government USA, China, or Canada?
In this case China, their government being only 50 or so years old at the time
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Literally the same bullshit getting pulled in the South China Sea.
“This ocean is all MY ocean, because I said so”
(oh oops there’s oil there teehee completely unrelated)