• wolo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    no one has ever wanted to work, you’re supposed to pay them enough that they’re willing to work anyway

    • zerkrazus@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      “Why do you want to work here?”

      Uh, I don’t, but this stupid thing called not dying requires me to have money and you’re offering to pay me money for doing a job you need doing.

    • Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz
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      1 year ago

      Yeah. Me too. You would literally have to give me money, for me to sacrifice a part of my chilling out time.

  • foggy@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    This just in: humans do not enjoy any degree of enslavement.

    Check back next year to see if we’ve managed to break the spirit of the human race.

  • GiddyGap@lemmy.world
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    There’s a reason why it’s called “work” and “free time.” Most prefer free time to do whatever they actually want to do.

  • theneverfox@pawb.social
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    Here’s the thing - I want to work. I love it - I create solutions to problems. It’s who I am, and when I have nothing else to do I wander around turning scraps into something useful. I became a programmer because I could create without worries about wasting materials.

    What I hate is being exploited like a resource - 40 hours a week is a lot. It’s enough I use every free moment just getting my energy back. I have no time to work on my own projects or properly socialize - I just get worn down until I burn out and can’t wake up in the morning.

    I’m also very aware of the impact of my actions, and nearly every possible job involves draining the world of something to make money for someone who has plenty.

    I don’t care if other people get to coast because of my work, I just want to solve hard problems in a way that adds to the world.

    I do care when I’m used as a pawn in the game of capitalism - But meet my basic and I’d spend my time creating

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    I understand very well that nobody wants to work anymore. The problem is, that despite all the technological advancements we still have to work. It’s outrageous!

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      It’s because people’s wants have shifted as technology progresses. If everyone was satisfied to live like a medieval peasant and all we needed to produce was clean food/water we probably could have automated most of the agricultural work and done away with the need for the majority of labor.

      But people today now want on-demand deliveries, entertainment, healthcare, telecommunications, international travel, etc. and they need to pay for these things somehow, which means work. These shifting desires continuously push the boundaries of what we are capable of producing which ends up redirecting labor rather than eliminating it.

      Edit: thanks for the down votes everyone. I’m not saying this is the way it should be or that people should live like peasants, just explaining the basis of consumer/labor theory from economics 101. People typically get more utility out of the things they buy using their wages than they would from not working at all. Right now that’s mostly because society would let you starve to death, but even if there was UBI or something like it, there would always be some people who would want to work in order to buy more things for themselves.

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        Tangentially, if we could support everybody at the medieval peasant level without work, well, why don’t we? By which I mean, let’s institute a Universal Basic Income. What a familiar, yet so profoundly different, world it would be if you didn’t have to worry about having a safe (although Spartan) place to live, clean water to drink, basic, nutritious food to eat, and care if you get hurt or sick, no matter what. You’d still have to work for all the modern luxuries.

        I guess the workers would have leverage against abusive, exploitative employers, if the cost of quitting a bad situation was simply not going to Paris this year, rather than life-or-death struggle, and we can’t have that!

    • rjs001@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      Executives shouldn’t be in any position of people listening to them. Put them in guillotine and ignore them once it’s fallen down