• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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      Social democrats want to pretend they can have their cake and eat it too.

      EDIT unf downvote me harder Lemmy libs! It only makes me harder!

      Oil barons get the fucking wall in Minecraft.

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        The rest of the nordic countries have the cake and eat it too without oil money.

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          Pay no attention to the legacy of colonialism and slave trade, and certainly not modern imperialist extraction from the third world.

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            Yes, Finland (which didn’t exist as an independent state until 1917) definitely has a long history of colonialism and slave trade in the last *checks notes* 106 years.

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              Finland, Iceland, and Greenland are certainly different from their cultural contemporaries. They are, historically, victims of colonialism instead of perpetrators like Sweden, Norway, and the Netherlands. That’s worth recognizing!

              They still benefit from modern imperialist extraction like every other Western State.

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            Please show me how slave trade and colonialism played any part whatsoever in Scandinavia. I’ll wait.

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              Exploitation of cheap labor and resources in the global south, which create artificially cheap commodities to subsidize their lifestyles.

              Exporting environmentally destructive resource extraction and production to the global south, allowing them to reap the benefits of plastics and meat without suffering the costs of massive amounts of pollution and hyper-exploitation of local workers.

              Being welcomed under the umbrella of America/NATO protection instead of being labeled as one of its enemies.

              Like, come on.

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                Exploitation of cheap labor and resources in the global south, which create artificially cheap commodities to subsidize their lifestyles.

                Exporting environmentally destructive resource extraction and production to the global south, allowing them to reap the benefits of plastics and meat without suffering the costs of massive amounts of pollution and hyper-exploitation of local workers.

                So, like every developed country in the world? Even post-soviet countries that never even existed before 1991 are imperialistic? Who would’ve thunk.

                Being welcomed under the umbrella of America/NATO protection instead of being labeled as one of its enemies.

                You do realize that countries technically speaking Sweden is not even in the NATO yet and a year ago neither Sweden or Finland were in NATO and had no intention to join NATO until Russia threatened them? They achieved their welfare states before they decided to join NATO. Does that retroactively turn them imperialistic?

                Like, come on.

                Yeah, come on. Use your brain for once and don’t just spew tankie bullshit.

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                  So, like every developed country in the world? Even post-soviet countries that never even existed before 1991 are imperialistic? Who would’ve thunk.

                  Every first world country in the world. The second world (post-soviet countries) aren’t really allowed to benefit from imperialism.

                  Surely you’ve noticed how much worse off they are? Do you think that’s just because the USSR ruined them and they still haven’t recovered? Do you not realize how much better things were before the West’s so-called “shock therapy” destroyed all of their social programs?

                  You do realize that countries technically speaking Sweden is not even in the NATO yet and a year ago neither Sweden or Finland were in NATO and had no intention to join NATO until Russia threatened them? They achieved their welfare states before they decided to join NATO. Does that retroactively turn them imperialistic?

                  Sweden still fell under the umbrella of protection! Do you really think if Russia invaded Sweden a year ago that the US would allow it?

                  Use your brain.

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            “If you are not rich because you were lucky, you are rich because you took it.”

            Gotcha. So, what does social democracy have to do with it again?

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              Social democracy is a way for capitalism to mask its cruelty by fully exporting all of the suffering it generates. It’s totally unsustainable without other countries to steal from or wrecking the environment, because at the end of the day it’s still capitalism and everything that entails.

              We don’t need to tax the rich. We need to do something else to them. 😘