• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    3 months ago

    Americans love to role play at having a democracy, but when push comes to shove the public is never consulted about such monumental decisions like ending human civilization.

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      3 months ago

      Wait sorry, Palantir saying this somehow reflects upon the US? Like I’m not saying that the US is good or bad but Palantir is definitely fucking bad

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        3 months ago

        Honestly yeah, a fascist billionaire’s policy thinktank trying to help gin up a war is reflective of US policy, especially US government policy, since they help write it.

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          it’s certainly on brand but this isn’t the official policy of any country, it’s a billionaire who owns a defense company trying to gin up business. Again, on brand but acting like this is tantamount to or evidence of the US actually doing these things is kind of silly. It’s Palantir, they aren’t a reputable source of anything other than RFPs.

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            Government tied “independent” think tanks and NGOs are part of the cycle of consent manufacturing that turns the avarice of billionaire ghouls into government policy. The US government is a bunch of banks and weapons manufacturers stacked on top of each other in a trench coat. A government is not a faction: its a tool, a weapon, it has no intention other than the intention of whoever carries it. This one is in the hands of the ultra wealthy and always has been. The desires of rich fucks to make more money is not separable from the actions of the US government: it always informs it. They start wars and genocides for profit. There is no other heuristic guiding the actions of the US empire because there is no faction other than the bourgeoisie that is allowed to control it.

            You might as well say “Sure, the shooter is pulling the trigger, but it would be silly to think that reflects on the intentions of the gun.”

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      We elect people to make decisions, that’s the whole concept behind representative government. We vote people in at the federal level who are supposed to protect us - it is one of their key responsibilities according to the constitution.

      I understand that the concept of representative governance may be lost on people who have little say on those who govern them.

      And just to be clear, no, ours is not a perfect system either. I’d prefer ranked choice to FPP voting, but even that has flaws.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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        Democracy isn’t about electing people, it’s about having a government that works in the interest of the majority. Western implementation of the concept is clearly broken because the governments consistently act against the interests of the people.

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        That’s not really how it works, though. For example, who sold I vote for to stop the support for Israel? No one. Or who would I have voted for to stop the war in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2008? No one. There are lots of things a majority of people favor but aren’t on the ballot because the rich determines what issues we can vote on and which ones we can’t.

        We have the pretenses of a democracy, but it is scaffolded by money and private interests.