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Beijing has called on the US to “completely cancel all unilateral tariff measures” if it wants trade talks, in some of China’s strongest comments yet on the impasse between the world’s two economic superpowers.
“The unilateral tariff measures were initiated by the US,” said He Yadong, a Chinese commerce ministry spokesperson. “If the US truly wants to solve the problem, it should . . . completely cancel all unilateral tariff measures against China and find a way to resolve differences through equal dialogue.”
Beijing has maintained that the US must make the first move to de-escalate the crisis, which is threatening to spark a hard decoupling between the two countries’ economies.
Chinese analysts argue that the US imposition of high tariffs make it difficult for Beijing to find a way to defuse the crisis.
China’s President Xi Jinping would find it difficult to engage personally with Trump on the trade war unless this was preceded by extensive negotiations to hammer out a deal, they say.
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Good. Someone should negotiate with the Republicans the way that they want to negotiate with everybody else. That is, we’ll only talk if we get what we want up front.
But the Chinese foreign ministry on said any reports that China and the US were nearing a deal were “fake news”.
How low do you have to fall that even China exposes your fake news.
I’ll be honest, I believe that he thinks he was talking to the Chinese government, but it turns out he was talking to the local Chinese restaurant.
It’s an easy mistake for this administration to make.
Something something Four Seasons.
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It’s schools like the Canadian native American schools, but schools none the less.
Where is your evidence that the adult vocational training schools in Xinjiang are anything like the cultural erasure child boarding schools in Canada?
Even if what you end up learning is they are indeed torturing people.
Where is your evidence of torture?
Trump has since begun to soften some of the measures, granting exemptions for smartphones, semiconductors and electronics and claiming the US and China were in direct contact “every day”.
On Tuesday, the president said tariffs would come down “substantially” and a deal would be done “pretty quickly”.
But the Chinese foreign ministry on said any reports that China and the US were nearing a deal were “fake news”.
“There have been no consultations or negotiations between China and the United States regarding tariffs, let alone reaching an agreement,” said ministry spokesperson Guo Jiakun.
This is classic Trump. Lie about how easy something will be and how great he’s making things, all while delivering horse shit and counting on your supporters to be too dumb to listen to what’s actually going on.
I’m no defender of China, but this seems like common sense. If you shat on my front lawn, I’d expect you clean it up before we talk about modifying our shared fence.
Unfortunately Trump’s style is to take said dump then demand praise for having you pay to clean it up.
This is the perfect summary.
No he ends up making some rube pay for it and calls it a victory, while the rube thanks him for the opportunity to own the libs
You can’t negotiate with a narcissistic personality disorder, not when they’ll deny the shit is from their dog even when captured on camera. Either way, they’ll factor in a way for the occurrence of the shit to be your fault and therefore your problem to clean up.
Sure, but now the shit-taker wants a favour from the shit-reciever who is having none of it until the shit is cleaned up. So now we get to watch the shit-taker squirm and writhe while they try to figure out how to untake their shit without looking like the complete idiot that they clearly are.
When trump finally caves and has to kiss Xi’s ass, every newspaper headline better fucking be “the art of the deal”
Now Trump has a lever to pull for more insider trading. He will let the economy crumble for a while longer, then tell his friends “now is the time to invest” and then agree to remove all tariffs a few hours later. Then the economy will recover sharply from the insider trading spike and fall again when these vulture capitalists are done.
Stakeholder capitalism had to die to make way for the pump and dump economy.
agree with what you wrote, but don’t confuse the economy with the stock market. the economy has been FUCKED for awhile now. never recovered from covid / profit-maximizing inflation tbh
https://www.lisep.org/ does a lot of really good work showing how false official UE, CPI, earnings are.
Sure seems like the “great negotiator” is the one who is having to answer demands
I don’t like Xi much but this time I want him to feed all the shit to that orange one.
Evil predictable dictator > evil batshit insane dictator
Jesus, do you have any idea how ignorant you sound?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole-process_people's_democracy
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Got it. You do know how ignorant you sound - you’re just OK with it.
“Hard Negotiator” At work here, people. /s
And we can just give them our best technology too? What a great deal!
China doesn’t need the USA’s technology anymore as they are absolutely dominant globally in the supermajority of high tech research
It’s “the art of the deal”. Create a big stink, then capitulate. Trump’s genius is truly mind boggling.
Absolutely not. If we’re going to be on the aggressive path, we need to stay the course. There are demands in place. Either they’re met, or it keeps going - up to and including a complete embargo on Chinese goods, while we continue to discuss the situations with HK and Taiwan ROC separately.
Yes. Double down. No more half measures. Full acceleration towards full destruction of usa economy. Take the treats away from the yanks, I want to see what they’ll do.
Wow, how little attention do you pay to the world? Cuz it’s near-0 if not fully 0, obviously
Given that China isn’t going to cave, what you’re saying here is that you think the US should tank its economy by doubling down. Sounds like you’re well qualified for a job at the White House.
What about the hypothesis that in reality Trump wants to “decouple” from China to enhance is military capability in a war on China?
I mean, it is clear to me that the US has little chance to compete on economic/innovation merit, yet it still has a considerable chance militarily… for now. The psychopaths running the US probably know they can only hope to compete via violence, and in a few years even that opportunity will be lost.
I am afraid of WW3. I really hope the US is so blinded by its own neoliberal koolaid that they continue to bet China is about to collapse, as Gordon Chang has been predicting since 2001.
I think there’s ample evidence against that hypothesis. Cost overruns and project cancellations abound in the US MIC. From Minutemen nukes to fighter jets to hypersonic missiles, nothings is really going right. As we saw in West Asia, the USA doesn’t even have enough body armor for its forces, and it certainly can’t care for its casualties. There’s really no way it’s going to win a war that it has to go literally to the other side of the planet to conduct. It will be so heavily dependent on vassals, like The Philippines, Japan, and occupied Korea that every single thing it does will be done in a way that is completely fragile and smothered with paranoia if not constant sabotage.
As far as I’m concerned, all the military strategists who believe that the window for winning a war against China is closing are only taking into account paper capabilities and not taking into account the USA’s inability to actually produce, maintain, and deliver those capabilities in a sustained conflict. To me, that means the window is likely closed. Then take into account that both China and Russia have been very successful in counter-intelligence and the intelligence fiasco that is Ukraine and I don’t think the US military strategists are even working with an accurate picture of China’s capabilities and capacities. I fully believe the window has closed and it’s just going to take some time for the reality on the ground to reach the strategists.
Given how dependent US military is on electronics and rare earths from China, there’s little chance of that happening. https://www.niocorp.com/china-launches-new-precision-strike-against-pentagon-rare-earth-supply-chains/
As qualified as the current resident for sure… … … …
what are the demands?
stop giving us cheap commodities in exchange for dollars which we print with a button on the computer basically
China better meet this fediversian’s unelaborated demands or else!
That Chinese people buys lots of american stuff like trucks and all ? I guess?
Y’all should get rid of Trump and his… entourage, tell everyone “sorry, this was all a big mistake, grandpa’s gone a bit crazy with old age, let’s forget all this nonsense”, it’s the only way to gain back some of the influence you lost.
we need to stay the course
Sunk cost fallacy. The trade war is a collossal mistake on the part of the US. It can accomplish nothing. Trump’s entire strategy was based on the idea of tarrifs being more undesirable for his opponents than for him. He was wrong.
China is not worried if the US issues a full embargo on Chinese exports to the USA. China’s focus is on the rest of the world when it comes to trade and it’s only focus on the US is worrying about US military adventures that it needs to defend against.
As for Hong Kong, you mean the city that England stole from China when they devastated them after getting half their people addicted to opium because it was the only thing the English could figure out how to sell? You mean the city that was run as an oppressive colony by brutal British governors until they realized they were finally going to have to give the city back and then decided to do a complete propaganda/indoctrination move, enrich token Hong Kongers, “enhance” the already existing indoctrination in schools that worshipped British “civilization” and propagandized their captive audience to fear and loathe their own countrymen? That Hong Kong situation that China has successfully worked through so far in a processes of integration, deradicalization, and respect? That situation? Where the protests in Hong Kong saw protestors throwing fire bombs at police force weeks on end but never escalated into a police riot like what happens in the US? That situation?
