Millennials: It’s ok to mourn the death of social media::Wired writes how “first-gen social media users have nowhere to go.” Ouch.

  • BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca
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    I’m just excited the internet is in part going back to its non corporate backed roots with Lemmy mastodon and the like. The internet started that way, and thanks to the enshitification it will hopefully slowly revert back to it

    The idea that corporations were involved in social media was insane looking back. The results were exactly what one would have anticipated

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      I remember when I first started using Reddit and there was so much weird and crazy shit that it really did feel like there was a sub for everything. Now it’s so sanitised that it’s nowhere near as diverse in its content and subs, hopefully Lemmy/fediverse can have as many different instances as old Reddit and the active community too.

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        What I don’t understand is who is moderating the big subs and why? When r/funny, r/holup, r/publicfreakout, r/damnthatsinsteresting (and I’m sure many others) are all basically the same memes and short videos, what kind of “community” is that? What kind of person signs up to clear the spam out of what is essentially 9gag 2.0 for free?

        There are many smaller communities that would probably be happy to move to the Fedi if it were easier and bigger, and I hope Lemmy evolves to the point where those can be absorbed. Reddit can keep the endless meme scrolls.

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          It’s only the smaller ones that I really miss in the fedi. Like, my pipeline for memes is doing fine, I doubt i’m missing any cultural touchstone moments, but on the corpo-net if you needed info specific info about your window box AC unit, not only was there probably a sub, but there was a larger sub just for general AC that would probably ban your post and say something like “hey post this in windowAC.”

        • Takatakatakatakatak@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          In many cases I believe SOMEONE is paying these supermods.

          It’s more about controlling public discourse than it is any sense of moral compass IMO.

          It’s a fairly cheap way to control the narrative on just about whatever you like if you can steer acceptable speech around hot button issues on such a large platform.

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            idk, I was in a Discord with many of them during the vaxxhappened protest and I didn’t get the impression any had particularly strong backbones. Not saying it doesn’t happen but I really have a hard time picturing most of the “powermods” as having the will to control anything. They (largely) seemed pretty afraid to rock the boat or upset Spez.

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          this is why r/Android moved to [email protected]. We even made our own instance dedicated to technical content. The reason most people I’ve been around mod is because they want to either fix a perceived quality problem or maintain a community that they enjoy frequenting.

        • pete_the_cat@lemmy.world
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          Power hungry douches that have nothing better to do with their lives. Some of these people actually consider it a job, even though they don’t get paid.

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            This is why our society is so fucked, someone with community spirit wants to help maintain a fun community which is free to access for everyone in the world and what do they get? Nothing but hate and abuse.

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              People who don’t appreciate moderators but also don’t like unmoderated places like 8chan are like the “No take only throw” dog.

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        BreadStapledToTrees had me so confused the first time I found it. It still confuses me. Even though I have only been active on Reddit for the past 5 years, even I saw a massive change in it.

        When I first found GoneWild and the like I was like “Mother of God, this is amazing…” and now 85% of the porn subs are just OF advertisements.

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          I remember that sub. I’m pretty sure there’s a sub with a similar name that is used for furry porn, for some reason.

      • Wahots@pawb.social
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        This, every time I see a post in the frontpage here where someone has taken a picture of a pear stuffed up their ass (etc etc), I breathe a sigh of relief knowing no advertisers or asshole CEOs are ruining this place. Feels like the old days of the internet, roughly. Sure it’s small, but it feels real, not sterile and clean for advertisers and shareholders.

      • Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de
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        I use old reddit from time to time to check specific subs and it’s wild seeing how boring they’ve gotten.

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          Because they ban people for “harassment” now for using the word fuck (or anything similar) in any context that might hurt some twit’s feefees.

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            That’s not it. Swearing doesn’t create content.

            Reddit is boring and dumb because they insert a million sponsored posts. Plus the karma farmers are going overboard. It’s just karma farmers and advertisers now.

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              Example:

              *"If you really want to improve yourself, stop concerning yourself with what pronouns others use for anyone or anything.

              Failing that, just shut the fuck up about it regardless of your concerns and you’ll have improved yourself tremendously."*

              Someone I know recently got a ban for that verbatim as a reply to someone who said they wanted to accept criticism and “improve” themselves after saying stupid shit about how important it was to refer to unknown animals as it instead of they.

              If you don’t think that’s overzealous I’m not sure what to say.

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              Disagree

              Editing to add: banning people for stupid shit reduces the pool of people creating content… Also, I still use it on occasion with a revanced app so I don’t see any of their ads… What I do see there is overly zealous and sensitive moderation dampening discussion (which is content)

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        Mastodon has rich media features and such that it could be considered a replacement for modern Facebook.

        Now for the legacy Facebook that was more focused on the Facebook wall, homepages, and etc. There really isn’t a replacement but nobody can use Facebook for that now.

        As for a replacement for Facebook groups, kbin or Lemmy can do it. Kbin does both the microblogging/status updates and communities.

        Someone else mentioned frendica. But I don’t have any experience with that.

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        Facebook does a lot of things. Depends on what exactly you’re looking for. Facebook allows you to follow friends and organizations (= Mastodon), it also allows you to participate in groups (= Lemmy), and then it has a few other features too.

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        Bluesky is not really decentralized like Mastodon. It’s more like crypto where the bigger you are the more influence you have over the network. There is zero incentive for someone to host a server off of .social since they will control it. Having a BS server does nothing besides provide Jack Dorsey and co with a little free hosting.

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          I use both and mainly curious because it doesn’t take as much as Mastodon to show you what you want to see. Or maybe I think that because I came from Mastodon to Bluesky, but I understand what both are. People know what Bluesky is but when I bring up Mastodon people are not really interested. Jack Dorsey is also no longer involved.

      • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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        I’m hopeful that long term, AtProto and ActivityPub end up merged into one future standard. But even if they end up separate, it’s not the end of the world since they’re both open and bridges already exist.

        It’s kind of like Atom and RSS. Soon, users won’t have to care or know the difference and eventually, code libraries will make it so even developers don’t have to know the details.

    • helenslunch@feddit.nl
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      the internet is in part going back to its non corporate backed roots with Lemmy mastodon and the like.

      I’m very small part.

      and thanks to the enshitification it will hopefully slowly revert back to it

      Twitter has proven that they won’t. Reddit has proven that they won’t. They’ve both proven that you can shit all over your own users, give them nothing in return, and they’ll complain for a few days but never leave in any significant numbers. Meta has proven that these shitty corporations can start up wholly new operation (Threads) and the masses will flock to it by the tens of millions.

      People have demonstrated over and over that, by and large, they will let these corporations piss on their heads and tell them it’s raining and that they will do absolutely nothing about it.