“I’m fine with Asians, but Russians are Asians. They have a completely different culture, vision. Our key difference from them is humanity.”

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      Now you see, THIS is whataboutism. The point here is that we have a leader in the current Ukrainian government who comes out and says that he considers Russians to be subhuman. You come up with a baseless claim that we think all Ukrainians are nazis. We think that the current government of Ukraine is dangerously far right and descended from actual nazi collaborators. You don’t want to hear it because it doesn’t fit your world view.

      You might also be interested that I translated it using AI. Results weren’t great, but language used around the 26 second mark matches the translation in the tweet pretty well. You can do this yourself instead of just calling it fake and lashing out at the left.

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        Buddy reddit/r/ russia was full of you like minded nutjobs calling Ukrainians nazis. There’s tons of video clips of the same. Your poorly translated version is NOT what he’s saying. Context matters and you getting a snippet of it is not what’s being said.

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      Will you listen to yourself projecting European raciasm onto your enemies? No one has ever said Ukrainians are Nazis nor have they have ever said the existence of Nazis in Ukraine is a function of their culture and their genetics. What we have said is that Ukraine has neo-Nazi movements in it that trace their lineage all the back to the Third Reich and that the US has armed, funded, trained, and organized these Nazi groups because they are useful to US strategic aims. We then couple that with the historical fact that the US has voted against the resolutions condemning the glorification of Nazis at the UN multiple times, and we show how the “democratic” government that was ushered in on a US-backed coup incorporated the Nazi elements, giving them legitimacy, political cover, access to more weapons, training, and funding, and sending a clear signal to the world that Nazism is both acceptable and useful in the battle for total European dominance of the region as part of the larger US project for total domination of the world, which the US inherited from European colonial powers.

      The de-nazification that we wish to see in Ukraine is the destruction of the support systems that enable these neo-Nazis to continue to operate, expand, recruit, and propagandize.

      None of this is based on anything even resembling the racism of the West, and to suggest as much as to tell on yourself how much you believe the Western propaganda that everyone acts like the West. It’s just not true.

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      No? I think there is a Nazi problem, but that’s it.

      Though uh, the Ukrainian security chief is sounding like a Nazi here…

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        Again thanks for highlighting exactly my point. Baseless nonsense as cconsumed from russia one. You guys are amazing.

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            I’ve seen one article parroted by Russian propaganda engines saying thus. Never seen a video or any other sources saying it.

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                  Tbf they last posted before I responded, probably havent seen it yet. Still, based on their behavior in the rest of the thread, I’m expecting either silence or some insane goalpost shift

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                    What he said was that Russians aren’t like Ukrainians. More Asian than Ukrainians are and that they think differently.

                    Context is important and your poorly translated version is NOT what he’s saying. He’s not saying all Asians are subhuman- he’s saying they have a different past and are influenced by it. He’s saying Russians are more violent based on where they come from and the past they’ve had. This is something he hadn’t counted on etc… etc… etc… since this is just a clip I don’t know where he was going with it. But it sounds more like he saying ukrainian military is more humane with regards to how they treat people than the russians.

                    MY point is that you and your type will just say a thing based purely on propaganda.

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              Saving this comment for later whenever Western press gets around to covering the story.

              Supposedly he said it on live TV. That’d be a hell of a thing for Russia to lie about lol

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                Oh yeah- like russia doesn’t lie about obvious things. Bombing civilians at railways, bombing civilians sheltering under theaters, bombing civilians in maternity wards, bombing civilians in retirement homes etc etc etc.

                I’d be willing to bet money someone is deliberately misquoted or changing context of somethig said.

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                  Lying about bombing civilians is standard in warfare. Everyone does it.

                  It definitely could be a misquote! That’s why I’m saving your comment - I want to know if I’m wrong later.