• Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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    We came back to another cycle of big corporations forgetting they have to be more convenient than pirating.

    Can’t speak for anyone else, but just having an actual no logs VPN for less than the cost of one streaming service while also using qbittorrent with the torrent site search function is so much more convenient than spending probably hundreds at this point for streaming services I might only watch anything on once a blue moon.

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      Money issues aside, it is absolutely maddening to have to navigate through six or eight different streaming services to find the show you want to watch

      I pay for spotify. If I want to listen to a song, it’s on spotify. I don’t need a different music streaming service for every single record company. As a result, I don’t pirate music anymore.

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        To be fair this is also not good though. It’s convenient, sure, but it creates a monopoly that can dictate what they pay to the artists - which is often close to nothing.

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          Itunes, Amazon music, tidal, YouTube music. It’s not a monopoly yet. Hopefully we can get a few more services, but I don’t see anything competing with this group.

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          As long as we put that “exclusive content” crap aside, every one of them can potentially offer every song if they agree with the artist. That’s where the video streaming services are different. Disney+ and Netflix had many overlapping shows until the shittification started.

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          Internet quality lies in “monopoly”. On Internet, the best service has everything and satisfy customers. That’s why piracy is such a strong contender. If a service has less than another, it’s not worth the other. If it has as much but miss features, it’s useless. Price is the final determinator, but if it’s too expensive, people can’t afford it.

          Copyrights make the problem worse, because then any copyrighted content exclusive to a platform makes this platform a monopoly, because it’s the only place were you can find this content.

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            Well that kinda works in general, but the issue is that it’s a never-ending cycle of “cool thing appears”, “cool thing grows and takes over the market”, “cool thing wants to make more money so it becomes less cool”, “it becomes so shitty that people look for alternatives and there are none because it created a monopoly”, “it becomes actually unbearable and folds because people flock to a new cool thing”.

            Decentralized stuff kinda helps, but you can still see with e.g. email that there are a handful of giant “instances” and they have a huge control over the space, standards, etc. that others have to follow whether they like them or not. But it’s still possibly to at least compete in that space (see for example ProtonMail) and it rarely becomes a true monopoly.

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              Mail is not community based, which means it works as a decentralised service. Most other services are better centralised.

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      Or even more convenient, the arr suite + Plex/jellyfish + Overseer. A docker compose is easy enough to write and get running in minutes

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        I would definitely love to set up a server for something like Plex if I had enough content to justify it. To me it seems excessive to have a server for just a very small handful of shows, in my case.

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    Around 2010 there was this “pledge” where a website people basically collected a list of things they’d require in order to stop pirating tv shows and movies and I think it came down to:

    Provide easy access to large library Provide multi language support, must offer original language Allow downloads/offline viewing Be reasonably priced

    Plus some additional stuff I can’t remember.

    When Netflix got big, they basically covered it all. Then everyone wanted a piece of the pie.

    Back to piracy then. 15$ for put.io ✨🙏

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      I may have lowered the skull and crossbones, and folded it up, and stored it away, but I never got rid of it. I’m building my Plex server, and sailing the seas again

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        It’s basically a Torrent tracker as a service with a web interface to directly stream your torrents in your browser or to a Chromecast, Apple TV and whatever.

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          Oh damn. Nice. But I assume that also means I don’t download or ‘have’ any of them right? I’d be paying put.io to store and stream them?

          How’s the library?

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            You pay for the amount of storage you want, then you select whatever torrents you want to download, either via a browser extension or services like chill.institute that look through common torrent search engines for you and give the opportunity to download instantly to your put.io account. You’re completely in charge of your library and put.io won’t show you anything you didn’t download yourself.

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      So when it comes to watching on my TV is there a reason why put.io is better than just plugging and HDMI cord from my computer to my TV and watching it via that?

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        I don’t know, perhaps I’m not getting the question.

        It’s basically a streaming service with a library that you fill yourself. It doesn’t matter if you use a laptop, app or streaming dongle to watch the content. I’d say that it’s easier to watch content if you already own a dongle like a Chromecast though.

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    And that’s why I use the questionably legal streaming sites… at this point I have been radicalized enough to find copyright an offensive premise

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    What an unusually comedic yet depressing final comments in the article:

    It’s an ironic end to the streaming wars. After pouring billions and billions of dollars into constructing supposedly revolutionary streaming platforms, and decimating the business models that had offered the industry stability for decades, the ultimate product looks awfully similar to what companies and consumers were trying to break free from in the first place.

    Im just gonna parrot what the other person remarked because what they said is pretty on point: I mean this is basically inevitable. We know that capitalism doesn’t actually seek the lowest price as its evangelists usually preach, but the highest - and so there is no way that streaming will not balloon over time to a price comparable to the cable TV plans of the past.

    Yarrr

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      To be fair, capitalism seeks the lowest market clearance price. Until price hikes start showing a lower net return, prices will go up.

      Not that I care, me cap’n’s hat never left the boat.

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      Especially since these services will drop their original content after awhile…

      Is Willow considered lost media yet?

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    After seeing this many "arr"s here, I just letting y’all in the comments know that 1) you’re my peeps 2) you’re feckin beautiful 3) I stay seeding for you <3

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    I’m back on the high seas, but I’m worried about my ability to discover new shit or when stuff comes back. I’ve relied on my Apple TV to let me know when new seasons start for so long that I no longer have tools to keep track of shit. I literally forget the things I watch between seasons.

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      I use a notion database to track all the shows I’m watching. Mainly because I have ADHD but it might be useful

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        Also ADHD, but in the way that systems like that don’t work for me. I’m wholly incapable of keeping up with them and they sap me of all my energy.

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        Yep. They just pull things you monitor as they show up in your feeds (in my case Usenet newsgroup indexes)

        For example. My wife like Billions, new episode/season came out and it jus popped up in my plex server the other day

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    They want >$100 a month to come out with maybe one movie and maybe two TV shows worth watching each year? No thanks, piracy for me has become more of a means to assuage my fear of missing out and keeping in touch with the cultural moment than actual enjoyment of the media they’re putting out right now.

    I do not believe the quality would go down if their budgets were cut significantly.