Thank you. It does seem cool but I can’t really keep up. I appreciate the explanation. I really thought it was a fully workable de-bloated win11. Which it is, but I need long term installs. I learned a few things though! So not a waste.

If i could ever figure out how to run a windows app via VM. Seamless mode comes close but not quite enough.

Anyway thanks and I didn’t mean to be negative, just didn’t totally get it.

Neat. I tried this last night on my once top of the line machine (in 2012) because why not…

It didn’t upgrade my win10 install but at least it didn’t delete all my data. Maybe I goofed on that as I was tired.

I used the 23H2 iso but it installed 22H2.

I didn’t use the script, it picked up my existing valid key.

It fails to update. Perhaps that’s the point or bloat would come back?

But if it can’t update then what’s the point?

Again, might be my fault but I’m not really trusting this image yet. Not enough to reinstall and relicense my tools.

I use Linux where I can but I’m bound to some windows-only proprietary software. I do use a stripped down win10 VM for a lot of it but at least it updates.

Will update this comment if i find that I’m at fault.

Thanks for reply but yeah we are in agreement. That’s why I quit using it like 2 decades ago. If it can destroy organic matter that obviously includes ours.

I was just curious on the quantity thing. A general air blown ozone generator will not hurt if at low power. It obviously won’t provide any benefits either. But for water it’s useful so was curious if you knew something i didn’t.

On topic - a powerful UV lamp (not something you’d want to hit your eyes) in your central AC is still very useful. Airborne stuff, mold spores, etc. at a minimum it keeps the coils clean.

Can you elaborate a little more? I used to have an ozone generator but, and it’s been a long time, it seemed that at useful levels it would be dangerous but what are “small quantities”? I have however found them useful to be used at high power for a short time to clear a car or house of smoke of pet odor (unoccupied of course).

I use the pool ones to keep water tanks sterile with an ORP meter for control and that seems to work well but it is extremely corrosive. It breaks down really fast though so I don’t think it’s causing any harm… Is it?

Open standard… hah… like bacnet was supposed to be? More and more i deal with bacnet devices that make some data unreadable (proprietary) so what was the point?

Agree with other posts about sending data to the cloud to work. Also I’m certainly way behind on my washing machine tech because I can’t fathom a reason they should be online. So I can get an alert when the cycle is done? Ok fine… stupid but fine - as long as it stays local.

It’s always the bagging thing that fails for me. I’m not the smartest person in the world but I can scan an item and place it in the bagging area. It’s kinda out of my hands at that point. Be it calibration or incorrect data sometimes it won’t recognize and after a couple attempts locks and some underpaid person has to come roll their eyes at me and swipe a card to let it go through.

I’ve probably just been unlucky and gave up 10yrs ago on that.

No they don’t train cashiers beyond what button to press. Produce is interesting. It’s been a while (love curbside service) since I’ve been in a grocery store but ours has tags on produce you show to a scale and it weighs it and prints out a sticker with a barcode.

And I just realized how abusable that is. I’m going shopping tomorrow!

Oh what’s the 4011 thing? Doesn’t ring a bell.

It’s funny how divided a topic this is.

Could just be my area but the machines always fail in some way or another.

Give me 10%off if I am doing the job of an absentee cashier… Always cool seeing many checkouts all decked out in gear with noone there to run them. Ever.

OR, even better, use some decades old tech and spend a penny to put RFID tags on everything so I can just run my cart through and verify the list of stuff and click Yes, No, Maybe.

Somewhat related… is it just me or are liquor stores the best at this? I never even stop moving and I’m out. Then i go next door to the pet store to grab some animal chow and I stand in line for 10mins because just one register of 6 is staffed.

At least we can order everything online for the most part now.

But coal workers are a bedrock of American ideals! We can’t take their jobs!

Is a /s needed? I don’t know anymore. Do people really enjoy being coal miners and want their children to follow that wonderful career? I can get a yes to that question but only from people who have no idea what that entails.

They don’t care really. As has been my experience anyway.

I once had my car window smashed, a mix of gear taken…some was expensive, some was personal to me. I felt violated. Called the police, explained, gave S/Ns to what I could, told them exactly who did it. He didn’t give a shit. Actually made me feel like I was wasting his time. I think Seinfeld covered this…

“We’ll let you know if we find anything” “Do you ever find anything?” “No”

But oh, my reg is out of date and the plate scanner picked it up? Boom, they really kick it into gear. So that’s $130… i could just go take care of the tags immediately with a friendly warning but now don’t even want to. And in the end I end up pretty fucked.

If only they put that effort into other things I just might have gotten my linear power amps back. Props to anyone who knows that product.

That’s cool… 150k? Nice. I regret not getting one when i had the chance but I felt like it should had at least a small turbo. And i wasn’t overly confident with the aftermarket stuff. That said the gt86 platform is quite a base to build on.

But yeah, i hate the trend of a big touchscreen to do everything. Sometimes i wonder if it’s just getting old but I really feel like the UIs are awful.

Display is ok for GPS and maybe some audio but I certainly prefer standard tactile interface methods. You are right, dying breed. Enjoy your ride!

This drives me crazy. Take a solid platform like the FRS… electrify it for something equiv to 300/300 and give it a 200 mile range. No fancy interior, lots of plastic, no lane assist etc. It would be fun and affordable. Same platform could be used for a more refined crossover.

I feel like Honda really should have done some type r civic thing but with electric.

I gotta say, that was an impressive amount of words to say nothing.

I feel you. My Nokia N900 and later N9 were great solutions. All my sms, aim, icq, msn etc was all seamless along with instant load time. Then came things like line, FB messenger, Whatsapp. It was just how to have everything in one place.

RCS is probably the best option at this point if Imessage could use it. Then i wouldn’t need other apps for those friends to get decent quality.

Sad to learn signal wasn’t the standalone service I thought it was. I might sound old but really don’t care about sticker packs. I do care about quality shares without another app.

What is your demo? In my world it’s quite different. Isn’t Whatsapp proprietary? And I know few that will bother with signal these days. I’ve started getting obvious spam invites on it as well so…

RCS should just be the standard. There is no reason to argue that… it doesn’t end the apps you use but many of us are tired of multiple apps.

Interesting. Can relate having spent most of my life on a southern coast. One summer my parents shipped me to my uncle in Denver for a few weeks. One day we dropped by an air show. It’s summer and it’s hot (mid 90s or so) but you can’t feel it. People passing out was common enough it had an announcement.

Cut to later that day and we are up in the mountains and I’m walking through a snow bank with the same T-shirt and shorts from earlier, perfectly comfortable.

So yeah if it’s dry you can wear about anything… when it’s humid nothing seems to work be it hot or cold. If we are gonna change the climate here are my notes: I’d like 65-68degF and let’s say 45% RH. All day everyday. Make it so!

Yeah I got you… that was a stupid thing to say. I never meant it like that. I mean hell at the end of the day you got me to look up a couple things.

It was a good lesson. And I’m usually banging heads with friends because they are judging and then i did it. Thanks for checking me.

Appreciate that but now I don’t know how to reply without sounding condescending… dammit! :) but you know, if you go back to 1995 bad boys that was how i communicated. Years later i relocated and nearly got killed for pointing out a funny and quite justified slight at a certain NFL team.

I’m not sure I have a point beyond stay trigger happy and call fuckers like me out! We all make mistakes and I have no problem being called out.

Shit, i still sound condescending don’t I? It’s just hard not to after a while. I don’t know if it’ll be Linux worthy but hit me up if you decide to try out borderlands 4. We’d be happy to have a new player in the group.

Great info, thanks. Most of my hardware is old. But that’s actually a good thing I think. I have a Lenovo ideacentre i plucked back from a friend as it was gathering dust. I upgraded the ram and SSD and installed neon on a whim and it’s amazing.

That’s what sorta started tracking me back… have continued using Linux for servers but i was impressed at that desktop. Now I know neon is a bit bleeding edge so any recommendations on a distro? I started with freebsd back in the day, then gentoo for desktop, then Ubuntu minimal for servers if that helps. Not afraid to get my hands dirty but prefer simplicity.

I found a 256GB SSD that should be enough for some testing. I need to grab some files off it but then it’s ready to go. Distro advice appreciated. Remember i just want to test :) TIA

Sorry yo, wasn’t intended that way I promise! I don’t have great people skills text based or otherwise. And actually I’m the one that sounds like an idiot anyway haha In my defense I’m quite tired and seeking excuses to not be working so yeah, my bad, no offense intended

That’s curious. I actually feel more and more lucid starting around noon or whenever the sun starts setting, and into the night. The person in the mirror starts to actually look decent, I feel more free and happy, etc.

Can’t go to sunrise if it can be helped. For some reason it’s just a punch in the face to me. I probably have issues with responsibilities or something.

We are all weird creatures for sure though even just based on the comments in this post.