Today they have something like 7 minutes to decide whether to launch a retaliatory strike if missiles are en route if recall correctly, 12 hours seems like a luxury.

Are you really suggesting that every asymmetrical war that is conducted successfully is genocide? O.o

Oct 7 literally is an act of genocide, see my post above. You’re saying they don’t have credibility because you don’t understand what genocide is. This designation has nothing to do with body count.

Oh, I forgor, the United Nations is Hamas now.

Oh no don’t forgor. They’re not Hamas but they do exhibit significant anti-Israel bias.

Three countries were on said commission of inquiry:

Navi Pillay (South Africa), serves as chair, Miloon Kothari (India) and Chris Sidoti (Australia) serve as members of the commission

Many more opposed their methods and conclusions:

June 2023, United States and Israel joined 25 countries in condemning the open-ended nature of the UN investigation and “the long-standing disproportionate attention given to Israel in the council.”

But that’s the UN for you, lots of scrutiny and condemnation of Israel, not a peep when Jews are ethnically cleansed from neighboring countries.

Israel is not committing genocide in Gaza, some Jewish scholars stress

Sorry to invade your echo chamber with dissent. It must pain you to be reminded that not everyone agrees with you, that must be so hard for you.

an occupying nation like Israel can not claim self defense when attacked

Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. A blockade is not an occupation.

If someone punches you to death, declaring they weren’t trying to kill you doesn’t make them any less guilty of murder.

Actually, in the US it could. Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter.

It’s almost as if words mean things and have specific definitions, especially legal ones. Feel free to criticize such behaviors with different accurate words for things you don’t like.

If you’re going to define your movement as anti-genocidal you should really have a firm grasp on what genocide is and who is committing it:

Article II of the Convention defines genocide as:
… any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

• (a) Killing members of the group;
• (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
• © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
• (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
• (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Hamas, what Israel has been clear they intend to destroy, is not a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. However, Jews/Israel/Israelis, what Hamas has been clear they intend to destroy, are. Therefore, legally Oct 7 was an act of genocide, and Israel’s war on Hamas is not. Such a designation has nothing to do with body count.

I support Israel because I oppose the genocidal. Binding their hands and preventing them from retaliating in self-defense only serves to support genocidal Hamas by keeping them in power.

Yes, yes you are.

I’m saying you shouldn’t make up a story without evidence and you should save your outrage until the facts are in. It’s not complicated. You don’t know what happened. Stop pretending you do.

You are clearly eager to blame Israel without evidence.

And you’re presuming it was one of those three branches without evidence to that effect. Lot of presuming going on here.

You’re presuming this was IDF without evidence to that effect

I’m informed and simply disagree with you. Is that not allowed? Is disagreement always “propaganda?” Do you prefer an echo chamber?

Israel is not infallible. This is a war, sometimes they get bad Intel, sometimes collateral damage happens, sometimes there’s fog of war…

In both of those attacks Israel was targeting militants and appears to have hit civilians.

If I’d done that, it would have been worthless. You need the additional context provided in that post.

Citations and sources in the comments.

Collateral damage still isn’t murder no matter how many times you repeat it, nor does hiding among children make Hamas immune from reprisal. Regarding women and children, their casualty figures were faked by Hamas and recently quietly revised by the UN.

Your outrage over child casualties is being manufactured and manipulated by Hamas.

Then they are lying. I encourage you to watch the Oct 7 attack footage, (Content warning: violence, cruelty, death,) if you have the stomach for it, which clearly disproves any such claims. This is not collateral damage. They target civilians. Full stop.

As if those are the only two options. Refugees in Rafah are evacuating, very few are being blown up or becoming militants.

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