Unfortunately a lot of consumers don’t understand this. Even if they use “pro” apps daily. These same people will fall for Apples marketing tricks here regardless.

Yeah thats fair haha!

Idiot drivers*

Happens with all vehicle’s. Not everyone that owns a truck has a room temp IQ like the person depicted here.

1: there is, but at this point its pretty niche and scattered. Lots of its hush-hush due to like you said potential security/insurance concerns. Mostly used for cracking and getting system/diagnostics readouts and error codes, Fob cloning, etc. without forking out cash to do so through the so called “proper channels”.

2: not that I’ve seen, and from they software they do use it seems mainly in house additions.

Though im not super into the scene, and i see it growing rapidly over the next few years seeing manufacturers keep doing some scummy shit to lock down their products.

Edit: fat fingered post before i finished typing it out oops.

Im still waiting on the world to end since 2012.

Haha yeah, and i used to charge an extra 25 cents for a “premium” version made out of construction paper.

Made a killing selling origami ninja stars in elementary school for a buck each.

“ArCh LiNuX uSeR BtW”

If they study the UFO, does that just make it a FO?

Ah yes the clips! I stand corrected haha.

I haven’t owned an Apple product since the ipod nano, so the only lightning cables im used too, are user owned devices, which are normally chewed up without the little side clips functioning.

Ty, for the reminder!

In that reasoning they made confuses me.

I’ve also never had a usb-c just fallout/ feel non-secure. You’d think with the increased surface area with the usb-c ring fitting between the port wall and the center peg of the port would increases gripyness logically. Vs The single peg insert of a lightning cable.

But eh, im no physics doctor.

Damn all these comments discrediting the 2, just like all the NA migrants discredit Native Americans rights.

Talk about doubling down on bigotry towards a race of people. Sheeesh, some of y’all are hypocritical.

Careful buddy, you can’t make logical points about windows systems. The Linux gooners on Lemmy are ready to beat their meat aggressively while taking your points out of context. Even if you agree with them overall.

Yep exactly what i stated, you can create local accounts. It’s dumb you have to do the work around, i agree with that.

I agree its a load of garbage. But that wasn’t the point of my statement vs. the directly quoted protion of the article i was referencing and reaponding to. The article list those issues as defaco issues, which they are solveable as i stated and was pointing out. Which occur in other OSs. Not to the extent of the garbage of windows 11.

Nothing i stated is untrue. You took the meaning and spun the context of my statement and spun it into me defending microsoft and windows11. Which i never did once.

Well of course. Some bozo said i lied, then miss-quoted me, then tried to discredit me based off their own made up bullshit.

Sorry for standing up for myself i guess haha?

Yep i agree. That is why i prefer using Linux distros as my general use OSs.

Was just mainly pointing out the articles fallacies in their reasoning from the section i specifically quoted.

Depends on user competencies with computers. It really isn’t difficult to full remove. Its even easier to disable like you mentioned, and for most common users, out of site out of mind is a fine option.

Now i do think having to do so is dogshit and should not have to be the case. I’m just saying what i specifically quoted from the article, are not fully true.

They ask about both diagnostic and telemetry options. Ubuntu 22.04. Default GUI prompts this during account fist login. Rocky 8 with default GUI asks this on initial user account login. Those are just the two i used over this past weekend.

At no point did i say it was the 20 questions that windows tosses at you. I purley stated it still happens.

So you can suck my dick with your shitty attitude trying to discredit me and my statement by misinterpretation and spinning what i said into your own dog shit interpretation.

(Mostly) mandatory Microsoft account sign-in.

• yea you can just create a local account lol.

Setup screen asking you about data collection and telemetry settings.

• so just like some current Linux GUIs and installs that also ask this. Same with MacOS

A (skippable) screen asking you to “customize your experience.”

• just press skip like any other OS that asks.

A prompt to pair your phone with your PC.

• also skipable, and isnt even asked on a local account setup.

IDK man win11 is pretty simple to “debloat” and most of the shit in this article that they complain about is common on multiple Linux, Apple, android, etc. setup/install processes.

Win11 is dogshit for a variety of reasons, like the shitty new start menu formatting/lay out. The god awful menu nesting. The laggy audio panel. The list goes on.

If we’re gonna be nitpicking an OS. Atleast nitpick shit that actually impacts operation and isnt also common on many OS’