Uh huh. So no defense of what’s happening, just “that’s the way it is.” Well great. No problem then

So because Iran and Israel have nukes, Israel can’t directly fight their enemy, and that means they have to keep playing whack a mole with proxies, like, forever? All while the “collateral damage” and “accidents” are mounting and more and more innocent people die?

There will always be new “moles” popping up, eliminating Hamas creates Hamas 2 and even if you somehow eliminate Hezbollah there will be Hezbollah 2: maximum bollah. Then you will have to fight them and there will be more whoopsies and more kids end up in bodybags. And then I hope you’re ready because since we’re not fighting the actual enemy but we successfully stopped Hamas 2, guess what we have now?

Seriously. The only result of this is death and the most likely people to die are innocent Palestinian, Lebanese and Israeli citizens.

I think Iran should stop funding terrorists.

They won’t. So yet again, do you think Israel should go to war with Iran? Why waste time fighting proxies?

Ah I see. Usually I’m not in favour of the sarcasm tag (ruins the joke) but it would have really helped here, lol.

You don’t need to be on Russia’s payroll to spew pro-Putin talking points

You know, if criticizing killing is a “pro-Putin talking point,” then pro Putin talking points clearly aren’t always bad? Should I be in favour of murder to really show how much I hate Putin? Literally what the fuck are you talking about

I agree with Putin that the sky is blue too. I’m expecting my rubles in the mail any day now.

Putin is a cunt and Russia’s war of aggression in Ukraine must be stopped.

If I was on Russia’s payroll that should be enough to get me arrested or at least fired.

So either I’m risking my safety OOOOORRRR not everyone opposed to Biden’s support for Israel is a Russian bot. Golly gosh I wonder which one it is

Biden:

So do you think Israel should go to war with Iran? Or are you happy with innocent Palestinians and Lebanese paying the price instead?

But I will say, when Israel does something, the blame lies with Israel. The blood of the dead is on Israel’s hands and it will never wash off.

The Guardian is a good source!

Are you addressing this comment to people who think Iran is… good? You’re right that they are not nice.

I think I understand your point: Iran is just in it to hurt Israel and doesn’t actually care about Palestinians.

But then isn’t the enemy Iran? How is killing some Lebanese child alongside a “terrorist” going to stop the next attack? Iran will just continue funding, surely? Probably with more willing recruits.

Obviously nobody wants war with Iran, I get that. So, and I know this is crazy, but maybe this is a problem you can’t murder your way out of? Just an idea.

He is a coward. He got off easy with Biden taking the attention away from him, but at the Harris debate, his stupidity and ignorance was on full display for everybody to see. He would embarrass himself again and he knows it.

She should get the air time even if Trump is too much of a coward to show up. Let him seethe about it.

So a low estimate of deaths (not counting people under the rubble for instance) and Israel’s claim on the number of Hamas dead.

Absolutely it will take years! So all claims about civilian to militant ratio in Gaza are unreliable and we should probably not make them

It’s generally not allowed under international law to target civilians. Civilians getting killed when military objectives are targeted are legal. Proportionally and necessity come into play here.

This is true but it’s only fine if you target “fighters” according to the blog. So it depends on the details of who these people exactly were, just being in Hezbollah is not enough. As you said it’s whether it’s truly proportional and necessary.

And for the targeting thing I think the main issue is whether it was possible in this case to control or even minimize the collateral damage. Since you don’t really know the situation you’re setting a bomb off in:

The targeting law concern will be more likely to centre on whether adequate consideration was given to the incidental injury and damage to be expected from these explosions, given, as is assumed to be the case, that those planning and conducting the operation cannot have known the circumstances that would pertain where each of the large number of explosions took place.

As you said, don’t confuse targeting with who gets hurt at the end. It didn’t come out too bad (by Israel’s standards at least) but that doesn’t mean they exercised the due care in how they did it, legally.

Compare that go Gaza, which has about 2 to 3 civilians per combatant killed.

Would be interested to see where you got those numbers

Very informative! Basically if I understand correctly: exploding pagers are illegal weapons anyway. But putting that to one side, if all of the targets were “fighters” (and not just Hezbollah in some other political/organizational/whatever capacity) then it might be ok, depending on the details of the targeting law the blog doesn’t cover much. But it seems they also weren’t all fighters sooo…

Even the targeting thing is debatable because they clearly couldn’t really predict the exact situation at the time, so how could they take the care to avoid civilian casualties?

Interesting how Hamas not releasing the hostages means that a whole fucking shitload of people who are not in Hamas are purposefully starved. It’s like they’re being… collectively punished.

They also said (different episode I think) that while they’re enjoying their lives (e.g. at a concert), knowing that Palestinians are suffering makes it better. Can you imagine being that much of an evil cunt?

Clip is in this video: https://youtu.be/j_uOJAKbGpg?si=ojFCDchAJw_B7Anb

Did you read the article? Among many other points:

Around 70% of all water and sanitation facilities in Gaza have been destroyed or damaged, the WASH Cluster, a United Nations-led group that coordinates humanitarian efforts for water, sanitation and hygiene, said on July 24, citing satellite analysis from the UN Satellite Centre.

And look at the headline. If there was “more than enough” generally, why would anyone do that?

The situation there is shitty, but to the blame of all the suffering on Israel alone is just plain wrong.

I didn’t do that. It’s just mainly their fault

What happens when you systematically deprive millions of people of food again? Either Israel doesn’t know the answer to this question or it’s a blatant GENOCIDAL ACT. There is literally no other option.

Since you ignored the question I can only assume the answer is yes.

Do you think this justifies depriving millions of people of clean drinking water?