TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)

Ok boomer

I’m not saying people can’t be reformed, clearly they can, no argument there.

My point is that Naziism itself, or basically any authoritarian/fascist-esque government, has never been stopped without violence. In fact it’s so rare that one of the only times it happened we named it the Velvet Revolution and it required the collapse of the entire Soviet Union to prompt it.

(The rest of this is about the US, but can apply elsewhere. I’m going to use American examples due to the subject of this post, but it does apply virtually everywhere now.)

This is systemic at this point; the president of the United States is a fascist. The government will now be fascist. And as much as I like the idea of reforming each individual person, how exactly do you think that is going to play out in the US as it is today? The left in the US is extremely shy and pre-defeated. They don’t demonstrate in huge numbers, they don’t come together, they don’t reach out to other groups on a national scale and defend each other. Hell, members of the DNC immediately blamed ‘woke politics’ for their loss, and are completely out of touch with reality. Women/2SLGBTQ+/minorities of any kind now have no official party that fully backs them. So the idea we’re going to get a handful of LARPing dickless Nazi fanbois to change their tune and have that be the feel good story just won’t cut it anymore.

I’m not saying people have to go commit random acts of violence. I’m saying that the government has been co-opted. There’s no legal system to rely on any more. Women are going to need fucking Green Books for going from state-to-state. People in the US have already collectively shrugged when a school or gay club are shot up, imagine what they’ll be like now with Trump and his cronies in charge with the full Project 2025 narrative.

What I am saying is, in the time it would take you to reform these people 20 times their number will be created. If you’re a woman, LGBT, a minority, you need to come together and decide how you’re going to survive this. Is it make no noise, wait it out, hope staying hidden helps? Or is it get out there in numbers and challenge authority? What do you do with people in your community who are ‘traitors’ and tell those Nazi’s where to find the black woman hiding, the boy who came out to his parents and was chased out of the house with violence?

Those men standing there, waving Nazi fucking flags weren’t stopped. They weren’t arrested, they weren’t fined, the legal system thinks that waving the flag of a belief system that says only certain kind of humans should be allowed to live is okay, because they ‘deserve’ the freedom to do so, but women don’t have the freedom to control their bodies. That’s the system the US is now.

Good luck reforming them, I wish you the best, and I’m so sad at what is about to happen down there.

If you are from the US, need to flee, and are in the PNW, please DM me. I’ll do what I can to help you.

I teared up a bit reading your comment, I’m so sorry you all go through this, and continue to go through this.

The worst part is a lot of the men saying this shit, even here in this thread, consider themselves ‘Leftist’. They know it’s the wealthy causing fighting amongst the poors to distract, and yet still these men fall for it. They think there’s some ‘women’s agenda’ coming for them and never once look back and think to themselves ‘wow, thank god they want equality and not revenge.’

If you have examples of Nazi’s being beaten without political/other violence, I’d love to hear them.

The only examples I have of fighting Nazi’s are my grandfather travelling across the world from 39-45 killing them, and my grandmother hiding/getting Jewish people out of Holland while occasionally killing a Nazi in an alley. She went to a camp, but survived.

So again, would love these examples.

Why does it have to come to this every time?

I don’t know, why do men require people to use extra words not to hurt their feelings?

“Young men expect sex, but they also want us to not be able to have access to abortion,” Thomas told The Post. “They can’t have both. Young women don’t want to be intimate with men who don’t fight for women’s rights; it’s showing they don’t respect us.”

See, they even included parts like that, and still people are here whining about it.

What kind of attribution do I need?

Just the ones who conform to my incredibly contemptuous description of them (a majority of white women apparently).

That one, what the fuck?

Can’t you just infer that?

NO. No we can’t just ‘infer’ this.

Just the ones who conform to my incredibly contemptuous description of them (a majority of white women apparently).

Going to need an attribution there, champ.

Jesus Fucking Christ, do we literally have to have women say things like:

“Young men – not all, just some, well in some areas most, but a lot of young men – expect…”

This tiptoeing bullshit to not anger some fragile men is insane. I lived as a straight man for over 40 years and this new idea that men are somehow put upon whenever a woman brings up being objectified, or has an issues with interactions with /takes a breath some, but not all, just a large amount, enough to be traumatizing, particularly as it’s systemic to the patriarchy, men.

This is ridiculous semantic bullshit in response to women feeling like objects and pushing back.

We’re better than this, and I’m tired of watching us act absolutely horrible whenever women point out systemic, extremely frequent issues they have with men, and have to inch around it so as to not break our fragile egos.

That said, when men were losing their jobs hey got told “learn to code” by callous and shitty journalists and women’s rights activists.

Where on earth has this happened?

The solution is so simple that you have to be abandoning it on purpose: promise men educations and to help them get employed, and you’ll get all the support you need.

So tell the men in charge to do that. We don’t live in a matriarchy, women fight the exact same fights you mentioned. You think women don’t get laid off just like men do? I’ve been in games for almost 20 years and I can tell you it’s not any better for the women in it.

There are so many issues with a Con government–like not even admitting climate change exists, that’s not great–and you mentioned many others.

I’m honestly tired of women bailing us out in these elections though, so I cannot imagine what it’s like for them to have to keep doing it.

But with Trudeau refusing to step down I have no choice but to vote conservative.

NDP, Green?

I’m willing to let Skippy axe the carbon tax and hopefully make living in this country affordable again. Ontario generally elects a provincial party that is in opposition, provincial liberals will get in and reintroduce cap & trade which will save us when the next liberal government is elected and tries to save the world again.

When we’re voting on abortion again, I hope the women in your life have a chat with you about how your vote effected them.

Up here in Canada as well. Almost exactly half of men, across all age groups, say they play to vote for the Cons. Last I saw it was 20% of women voting Con. I am incredibly embarrassed at my fellow men.

I’m Canadian and didn’t, particularly with the picture of the man as the image for the story.

UNIFIL said Israeli soldiers had also fired at a UN position in Ras Naqoura, “hitting the entrance to the bunker where peacekeepers were sheltering, and damaging vehicles and a communications system.”

“An IDF drone was observed flying inside the UN position up to the bunker entrance,” UNIFIL said. The previous day, Israeli forces had “fired at and disabled the position’s perimeter-monitoring cameras,” it added. They also deliberately fired at and damaged another position, it said.

So they knew it was the UN that they were attacking? What the fuck.

Personally, I would imagine that the real issue with THIS ARTICLE is the picture they chose to forefront it. Why would they choose that one

A woman was raped over decades by 51 men and your issue is the article has a picture you don’t like as the opening image?

Well the idea with protests like this is to shine so bright a light on it that we force governments to act. If we do that enough, we can make this happen less and less to everyone.

And so, what’s the course of action? To give all men some sterilization treatment?

Who the hell said that?

The case has put into the spotlight a growing problem with rape in France. The number of sexual assault victims in France increased by 33% in 2021 and nearly doubled from 2017, according to a government report. Women made up 89% of rape victims, while 96% of sexual violence perpetrators were men.

But out of almost 35,000 rapes recorded that year, just over 10% were prosecuted, and fewer than 5% resulted in a conviction. And the vast majority of rape or attempted rape victims − nine out of ten − never even file a complaint, the report found.

The plan is to make it so the system actually helps the victims. That’s the idea. These protests bring light to the issue.

And, I promise you, the real numbers are probably scarily equal, just like with domestic abuse. Because men are definitely taught to never come forward with those.

Cool guess, stats say you’re wrong.

But even if the true ratio was 1:50, what’s the solution?

See above.

Seriously this is fucking embarrassing, you’re creating constant strawman arguments without any basis of anything reported.

Sorry you’re getting this reaction. I am a man who was abused by women and all the support groups lead to me taking to a room full of women about it. Do men come forward less often? Yes. It would have to be like 1 in 100 men coming forward for it to be equal. I’ve had one other male friend who has been assaulted, but over half of the women I’ve been friends with have.

If it helps anyone with that being anecdotal, you have to look at the statistics of who is doing it: people in power. Just that alone means more men simply have the opportunity. Add to that that men are told sex is power, and that men who have sex often are virile, whereas women who do are slut shamed. It’s getting better, but still far off.

Anyway I’ll take the downvotes, but every statistic we have shown is that men are the primary antagonist in the vast majority of sexual assault against both men and women.

I’m sorry you’re going through that, man, that’s awful.