Europeans stuck with Ukraine

I mean, giving weapons is different from sending soldiers. This is what I mean by “most people haven’t seen friends die.” It’s a completely different ballgame that most of us in the West do not have experience in and are not prepared for.

Err… these are videos taken by Ukrainians. I guess they’re trying to spread propaganda by showing us the truth? That’s how bad it’s gotten on our side, unfortunately.

Are you seriously trying to justify sending unwilling people to their deaths on the grounds that they were invaded? What if the people being forced into battle think they can’t win? Should they still be forced to fight and blocked from leaving? That’s pretty fucked up, man.

I expect you to say something like “you know what’s fucked up? getting your country invaded because of one madman” blah blah blah. Like, come on guys. This really just puts into perspective how rational and intelligent the average internet user is these days.

None of you care about reason. Only looking good in front of your peers.

Hysteria is real.

2… hours? My oven is pretty weak, but they’re ready in 35 minutes if I include fries. The fries take longer.

Compared to getting in my car and waiting in line, it’s about the same time. The real benefit though comes from the fact that I don’t have to tend to it constantly. While I’m getting food at a restaurant, I can’t be doing something else.

Seriously, give it a shot. You may be surprised.

If that’s too much for you, you can make your own meatball subs. I can give instructions if you’re interested, but it’s pretty easy to figure out how. You can use your microwave, too. It’s much faster.

If Israelis spent their money on improving the quality of life of Palestinians instead of war machines, they wouldn’t feel the need to use the war machines.

Europe also bears much of the blame for the situation in the Middle East.

“These pies were made in a factory.”

A lack of critical thinking skills, and general stupidity.

And trolling. Don’t forget trolling.

Man, imagine if we had tanks when we were still hunter-gatherers and wild animals were a legitimate danger.

It’s just badly informed people on the internet that watched a couple of YT drone clips and think they’ve mastered the art of warfare.

Describes these forums perfectly.

I think what people like you are starting to learn is that both are necessary.

A lot about fighting a war is variety. Tanks have their uses, and so do drones.

Trying to argue one can replace the other is stupid and rational adults should not take you seriously as a result.

I don’t take any news written in English with any seriousness for these two countries.

Thank you. I’m glad other people are starting to realize that all of our information is fed through an English-speaking filter first.

If we want to see more than what English-speakers have deemed palatable for us, we need to learn different languages.

it’s sad how we can’t overcome propaganda and at least make an attempt to understand the truth, but it really puts into perspective why I should not respect the vast majority of my peers in the modern day.

Too many people are overtaken by hysteria.

and without vehicles were pretty much back to WW1 tactics, fighting over inches.

Which is kind of what the war in Ukraine has become.

Maybe one day we’ll learn as a species that there is no good way to fight a war and we should just avoid it altogether.

Most of us are just fighting over what the ruling class wants us to fight over, anyways.

7 dollars for rice, lettuce, mostly water, and maybe a 1/4 pound of beef?

I jest. Merely commenting on how all restaurants are scams if you’re looking for a good deal.

Do your cooking at home, people. It’s faster, easier, cheaper, and healthier to just make food in the oven than it is to drive to a restaurant or, god forbid, use a delivery app.

Open your minds. Experiment. Eating doesn’t have to be something you show off to your peers.

Need protein? https://www.walmart.com/ip/Marketside-Cheddar-Bratwurst-5-Links-1-lb-3-oz-Fresh/5113233441

$4 gets you a little over a pound of bratwurst. Bake it in your oven, put it in a tortilla with a slice of American cheese.

You now have 19g of protein and ~400 calories for $1.

Add fries to the oven and you almost have a complete meal. Just need a veggie, like broccoli.

Hmm.

Fuck germany.

Are we cooked as a species?

Yes, and it’s by design.

Parents who have sold themselves out also condition their children to do the same thing.

The people who are taken advantage of the most are the ones who never realize it.

All in the name of… checks notes

Fighting communism.

Really puts into perspective who is pulling the strings over in the Land of Freedom. Here’s a hint: their children are never the ones to die in a war.

It’s genius, really. Convincing the working class to literally sacrifice their children for a system that supports the ruling class. Brilliant.

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Pretty much the only Western-aligned nation that’s ready to fight a war is Israel.

War, for Americans, really is just all fun and games right now. Most people haven’t seen friends die. When that starts happening and the reality of war sets in, I don’t think most Westerners will stick around. They value their lives too much.

Ukrainians are also forcing their working class to go fight for their ruling class.

https://kaotic.com/video/9fe428c5_20250330071906_t

Videos are uploaded almost daily to Kaotic of Ukrainians being hauled off to die in a war.

Pretty sure they’re not allowed to leave the country, too.

Maybe this is why Ukraine was never allowed in NATO. They are behaving very similarly to Russia.

Edit: Was just catching up and here’s a video of Ukrainians trying to leave their country and getting stopped by a soldier.

https://kaotic.com/video/f6591020_20250328155401_t

The propaganda is real on both sides, guys. Try to understand that most of the information you see is being fed through an “English filter” first.

Edit: The people replying to my comment wouldn’t be saying the same things about Russian conscription. It just goes to show how strong bias and delusion is on both sides. They’re saying I’m spreading propaganda and calling me a troll, which is an effort to censor me thus further proving my point about an English filter.

Maybe not.