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  • oh my god it was beautiful

    it was nearly an argument and then it just crashed and burned so quickly, and it was so clearly meant to be some kind of coup de grâce

    reasoning about the actual mechanics, and thinking through their implications

    okay so if a person grows up in the wrong environment, and so they reason about the actual mechanics, and think through the implications in a way that you don’t like, it’s bad

    but when they do it and get an answer that you do like, it’s good

    the only difference between the two scenarios is your personal opinion on their conclusion







  • *taps the sign*

    Donald Trump, a fascist, is currently polling about equally with his opponent, who is not a fascist, because while his policies are fascist, he isn’t describing them as such. People are willingly voting for them because they think they’re a good idea.

    If he campaigned on “I am a fascist”, he would not be polling equally with his opponent.

    Please explain how these two ideas put together aren’t an example of what you advocate for in your post.

    You’ll also notice that me referencing polling figures doesn’t mean that I agree with the outcome of polling. Absolutely shocking that I need to make this clarification, but there we go, I suppose.

    Or, you know, continue desperately avoiding making an actual argument because of how obvious it is that you accidentally made a pro-fascism, pro-eugenics post and for some reason can’t accept that fact.







  • also to preempt pls nobody do the intellectually dishonest thing of pretending me following this line of argument means im in love with eugenics and am here to argue for more eugenics or that i just dont think eugenics is such a bad thing after all thnk u

    wow you did the thing well done

    you made a bad argument, it’s okay

    if your argument was good you wouldn’t be working so hard to avoid defending it like you are


  • All of these are fairly straightforward and easy to understand, it just takes a while to get into the nitty gritty

    i feel like everything’s “easy to understand” if you assume infinite time to explain it, but for the sake of argument, let’s agree that these in fact “easy to understand”

    in which case, the ideas behind pre-natal scanning and graduate family stimulus are also easy to understand, so we haven’t really moved anywhere.

    this post still doesn’t make any case for marxist ideals being sound other than “people like them when they hear them without the label”. which i’m arguing (via the use of the provided two examples) is also true for eugenics.

    and if “people like the ideas when they hear them without the label” is justification for ideas being good, then eugenics must be good, but we know eugenics isn’t good, so it’s not a good justification

    so the post doesn’t make a good argument for marxism being good

    and we already know the post is attempting to be an argument for why marxism is good, because you already acknowledged it’s making the case that “people have a negative connotations about marxism”, and combined with the point about nazis from earlier you enjoyed so much, that’s sufficient to show that it’s attempting to be an argument for why marxism is good

    Ah, “the trains ran on time.” We both know that’s not Nazism.

    what are you talking about? why are you trying to bring nazis into everything now?

    (also, “trains ran on time” is mussolini, who was a fascist, not a nazi)


  • I dunno, why bring up the Nazis as though they had popular ideas?

    i didn’t and i’ve already clarified that?

    i’m not sure what more there is to say on this

    What parts of Marxism do you want to chop off?

    if you’re referring to everything then that would include stuff like das kapital which i don’t think you can reasonably refer to as “easy to understand”

    “philosophical grounding in Dialectical and Historical Materialism” also seems like it would be a fairly hard thing for the average person to understand

    also, marx didn’t invent communism, so to say communism is contained within marxism is incorrect

    the opening of the communist manifesto literally references the fact that european powers were already trying to “exorcise” the idea from the continent at the time

    Yes, people generally don’t agree with the ideas posed by Nazism.

    nazism proposed pre-natal scanning and graduate family planning stimulus? that’s news to me