Maybe take a look at Appflowy. It’s another Notion clone like Anytype, but it’s much easier to selfhost.

No, it really doesn’t. That’s like creating a bot that buys and sells company shares automatically, and saying the stock exchange has a vulnerability because your bot makes bad decisions.

What’s absurd is this crypto maximalist take.

You can’t just make up your own permission and punishment system, and then expect the legal system to just step aside and let it handle all disputes, especially when it comes to fraud. That’s like founding your own city in an existing country, and declaring all existing law obsolete. I know some people think this is a real possibility, but the real world doesn’t work like that.

IANAL and all, but bad/unfavorable contracts and literal deception/fraud are two different things, at least in the legal system. Not everything that’s technically possible is also allowed, obviously.

Compare it to using a security flaw to hack into a system. Technically you’re only using the official API, maybe in unusual ways, but still. But you’re doing it in bad faith and causing harm, maybe pretending to be someone you’re not or injecting fake data into the system, and that can make a difference.

It’s not. They tricked some MEV-Boost bots into doing bad trades.

Here is a more detailed explanation of the exploit.

The Pepaire-Bueno brothers exploited a bug in MEV-boost’s code that allowed them to preview the content of blocks before they were officially delivered to validators, according to the indictment.

The brothers created 16 Ethereum validators and targeted three specific traders who operated MEV bots, the indictment said. They used bait transactions to figure out how those bots traded, lured the bots to one of their validators which was validating a new block and basically tricked these bots into proposing certain transactions. […]

So hardly an attack on any core system of cryptocurrencies.

I hope at that point we have enough capable alternatives. Like, hopefully around the time they add ads is also the time when open-source models and apps have caught up again.

They could just choose someone to send to the debate, doesn’t have to be a candidate for the presidency.

I’m no fan of the right, but some of the rules only exist to prevent smaller alternatives from getting traction, especially in the media.

It’s a group therapy called [email protected], we always have free seats!

This is pretty impressive and hella creepy!

If you’re curious, here are the numbers added up for all Lemmy instances with 10+ users:

blocked/fedipact

• ​​users: 251442 (~60%)
• active: 24106 (~55%) ​​​

federated

• ​​users: 167166 (~40%)
• ​​active: 19558 (~45%)

Yes and yes. It runs the bridge and en/decrypts messages locally on your device, so full e2ee is preserved. The bridge still has to login to your messenger accounts, so nothing changes there.

There’s almost no difference to a good Matrix client if you already selfhost the server and bridges. Most of the Beeper client’s value is making it very easy to manage the bridges they host for you.

There always something missing, like

• Not available on all platforms
• No sync, or only to some corporate cloud service
• Missing formatting/linking/calculation/organization/sharing capabilities
• No/Limited/Only drawings
• Clunky/Unfinished/Buggy

Every app is different, but I have yet to find one that ticks all the boxes.

Didn’t know about that one. I’ll check it out, thanks!

Edit: Windows/Browser only, no mobile app :/

Yup. It looks promising and I’ve tried it a few times, but it still has a long way to go before it can replace Notion for me. Also, self-hosting it is a complete mess right now, definitely not ready for everyday use.

Nothing about what you just wrote has anything to do with closed source software though. You could just as well say that closed source helps them predict the future or draw shinier unicorns. It doesn’t!

Maybe you mean tightly coupled, stripped-down, preconfigured or vertically integrated, but you can do that just as well with open source software. No one is forcing them to make a general purpose chat app or offer the ability to choose a different server. It’s just a matter of being able to see, verify and modify the code.

differentiate above the competition […] charging for it

This is the only thing that comes close imo. But they stated specifically that they don’t want to make money with the chat app itself, so it doesn’t really work as a justification. They could easily offer server-side premium features or create a closed source premium-only version or extension, it’s no reason to make the base app closed source.

security theatre

They don’t have to do that, and they don’t afaik. Matrix itself can do proper e2ee just fine, and Beeper is pretty open about the fact that bridges hosted by them have to break e2ee to translate between platforms. They’d only need theater if their closed source app actually has some bad code in it, which is kind of my point.

Expanding to selling some user metadata, or sniffing the bridges, would be an extra

Again: Their Matrix server and bridges are open source right now, and it wouldn’t stop them from doing what you’re describing.

Too pedantic 😉

I just can’t help it. 😜

Notion + OneNote/Samsung Notes

There is a myriad of open source notes apps, but none of them really hit the spot for me.

the connecting with a majority of people using the same closed source platform

The platform is open, including the part that connects to other closed source platforms. It’s just Matrix and open source bridges after all. And making the client app closed souce doesn’t help with any of that.

I’m sorry if I’m a bit pedantic about this, but it seems like you’re describing an upside to closed source software that’s just not there.

You’re definitely right that people are a bit too doom-and-gloom about it, Beeper did do a lot of good over the last few years!

But I also find it a bit odd that they talk so much about the importance of open source in messaging, and then release a closed source client without at least adressing the topic. Add the fact that they’ve been aquired by another company on the same day, and it starts to smell like another instance of openwashing.

Idk, we’ll have to see how it plays out I guess.