People generally should use the best option. Often expense is the metric. These are able to operate at competitive rates because they get away with shenanigans. They should be regulated properly, then their rates would reflect that and people would use them less.
Yeah, last time I ordered through grubhub from a Chinese restaurant, by the time I paid the delivery fee, inflated menu price, service charge, and driver tip, I was looking at almost $90 for mid-tier Chinese food. I ordered by calling the restaurant up and ordering takeout and paid $40 instead.
I literally could order from halfway across the state and make a road trip out of it and still come out ahead.
100% agree. Too rich for me, or at least their local counterparts Foodora and Wolt, but that is highly subjective. I guess many just place a higher value on date night with PJ’s and a bed.
Yeah, it’s this. The only thing innovated by DD or UberEats is avoiding regulation. This is the real cause of all of the enshittification that everyone is seeing. It’s been the plan all along; charge an absolutely unsustainable price, jack things up when you’re the only option. DD is already well along this pattern; it used to be much cheaper, and it’s still going to go up.
That sounds like human nature. This is exactly why government exists, to regulate this shit because otherwise we will consume everything we can until the planet is dead.
I think about this a lot whenever Airbnb comes up. People mention it and I’m like airbnb caused rents to rise a lot, and I just get deafening silence.
Honestly I would respect “I know it has externalized costs I’m not paying for, but it’s convenient and I accept it’s not the best thing” more than awkward silence or clumsy justifications.
I’m guilty too, sometimes. I should probably order directly from the restaurant instead of using seamless or whatever
It’s not like housing is inherently capped. Cities choose to pass and enforce zoning laws that limit the number of housing units - shortages drive up prices, which homeowners love.
Blaming AirBnB for taking up a fraction of housing units in a market that is profoundly short on housing because of the NIMBY greed of residents is missing the forest for a tree.
I look forward to the downvotes again because everyone has their heads so far up their asses but we are the problem. Fuck us.
We are the reason we are racing to the bottom. We expect cheap & fast and we don’t care how it happens as long as it does
Yep. Some More News had a sobering bit in their video on the generation war about how Millennials are also responsible for fucking up the world for the people coming after us like the Boomers were (as in, the real problem lies with politicians but we do make it worse in some ways). The gig economy was one example of fucking shit up for Gen Z without us realizing it at the time.
(Obviously the major problem here is that somehow DoorDash and Uber Eats get to pay people less, poorly written regulation that carves out concessions to make shit worse for everyone.)
Been a while since I watched it and I don’t know how well it holds up but it was interesting.
I will challenge that the advent of the gig economy did exactly what it was supposed to do and it never benefitted worker. All it did was enable employers to further justify stripping benefits like a living wage and private healthcare and all those other things that full-time employees benefit from.
Sharing economy is the same bullshit. Exploit our need for cheap and fast over all the rules and regulations that evolved in the industry they’re undercutting.
Uber fought tooth and nail against providing rides for handicapped users “let the market sort it out”
Airbnb did and does the same on all those things hotels have to do.
Mark my words years from now those undercutting companies will die or morph into the industry they killed as costs go up because they will stop being able to skirt the decades of regulations that existed to benefit us all.
This is what happens when you have a bunch of entitled techno bros thinking they can design a better wheel.
For every else (like me) who had never heard the term ‘gig economy’ before:
A gig economy is a free market system in which temporary positions are common and organizations hire independent workers for short-term commitments. The term “gig” is a slang word for a job that lasts a specified period of time. Traditionally, the term was used by musicians to define a performance engagement.
Bruh, idk where you’re at, but in the major cities we were using Grubhub back in 2016. Though I think it was “Eat24” back then. And Door Dash had existed even earlier. This one isn’t on the 'rona.
F*ck the people who empower gig economy. Fuck Uber eats, door dash and everything similar.
They only exist because people use them.
People generally should use the best option. Often expense is the metric. These are able to operate at competitive rates because they get away with shenanigans. They should be regulated properly, then their rates would reflect that and people would use them less.
Already they are expensive AF. The menu prices on doordash can be like 50% more, then there are the service fees and more.
Yeah, last time I ordered through grubhub from a Chinese restaurant, by the time I paid the delivery fee, inflated menu price, service charge, and driver tip, I was looking at almost $90 for mid-tier Chinese food. I ordered by calling the restaurant up and ordering takeout and paid $40 instead.
I literally could order from halfway across the state and make a road trip out of it and still come out ahead.
100% agree. Too rich for me, or at least their local counterparts Foodora and Wolt, but that is highly subjective. I guess many just place a higher value on date night with PJ’s and a bed.
Once they fully stop subsidizing them with VC capital we’ll probably see the return to traditional delivery
Yeah, it’s this. The only thing innovated by DD or UberEats is avoiding regulation. This is the real cause of all of the enshittification that everyone is seeing. It’s been the plan all along; charge an absolutely unsustainable price, jack things up when you’re the only option. DD is already well along this pattern; it used to be much cheaper, and it’s still going to go up.
I look forward to the downvotes again because everyone has their heads so far up their asses but we are the problem. Fuck us.
We are the reason we are racing to the bottom. We expect cheap & fast and we don’t care how it happens as long as it does.
That sounds like human nature. This is exactly why government exists, to regulate this shit because otherwise we will consume everything we can until the planet is dead.
I think about this a lot whenever Airbnb comes up. People mention it and I’m like airbnb caused rents to rise a lot, and I just get deafening silence.
Honestly I would respect “I know it has externalized costs I’m not paying for, but it’s convenient and I accept it’s not the best thing” more than awkward silence or clumsy justifications.
I’m guilty too, sometimes. I should probably order directly from the restaurant instead of using seamless or whatever
It’s not like housing is inherently capped. Cities choose to pass and enforce zoning laws that limit the number of housing units - shortages drive up prices, which homeowners love.
Blaming AirBnB for taking up a fraction of housing units in a market that is profoundly short on housing because of the NIMBY greed of residents is missing the forest for a tree.
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Yep. Some More News had a sobering bit in their video on the generation war about how Millennials are also responsible for fucking up the world for the people coming after us like the Boomers were (as in, the real problem lies with politicians but we do make it worse in some ways). The gig economy was one example of fucking shit up for Gen Z without us realizing it at the time.
(Obviously the major problem here is that somehow DoorDash and Uber Eats get to pay people less, poorly written regulation that carves out concessions to make shit worse for everyone.)
Been a while since I watched it and I don’t know how well it holds up but it was interesting.
I will challenge that the advent of the gig economy did exactly what it was supposed to do and it never benefitted worker. All it did was enable employers to further justify stripping benefits like a living wage and private healthcare and all those other things that full-time employees benefit from.
Sharing economy is the same bullshit. Exploit our need for cheap and fast over all the rules and regulations that evolved in the industry they’re undercutting.
Uber fought tooth and nail against providing rides for handicapped users “let the market sort it out”
Airbnb did and does the same on all those things hotels have to do.
Mark my words years from now those undercutting companies will die or morph into the industry they killed as costs go up because they will stop being able to skirt the decades of regulations that existed to benefit us all.
This is what happens when you have a bunch of entitled techno bros thinking they can design a better wheel.
Which is exactly what they said?
You can say fuck on Lemmy
I’m pretty sure certain instances actually censor out swear words automatically.
You could say it anywhere except in front of insecure reddit mods.
For every else (like me) who had never heard the term ‘gig economy’ before:
A gig economy is a free market system in which temporary positions are common and organizations hire independent workers for short-term commitments. The term “gig” is a slang word for a job that lasts a specified period of time. Traditionally, the term was used by musicians to define a performance engagement.
AKA a “contractor”, AKA a 1099 (vs. W2) ‘employee’.
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The lock-downs definitely aren’t at fault for doordash and ubereats, they were there and gaining traction before covid was discovered.
wat
Bruh, idk where you’re at, but in the major cities we were using Grubhub back in 2016. Though I think it was “Eat24” back then. And Door Dash had existed even earlier. This one isn’t on the 'rona.
This is one of the most ignorant comments I’ve seen on the internet today.