Today 10 years ago I went to Poland to buy a Phone with pre installed #Firefox OS on. The Phone was a Alcatel One, so very shitty. Two years later I installed Firefox OS on my Nexus 5 instead.
It was a very good concept, but sadly rolled out on too shitty hardware so it never caught on.
I never understood why they targetted low end hardware with a tech stack that’s notoriously slow (web).
This was exactly my (dumb, layman) view of things - great idea hobbled from the outset by the marriage of slow web apps with slower hardware.
To keep it affordable?
Then use something more efficient than the web stack. In the end, Android ran better on the same devices and had better software support.
I remember when Ubuntu for phones was hyped so big, then it fell flat…
can you still get that
Yep https://ubuntu-touch.io/ . Rolling out LTS 20.04 for their supported phones at the moment.
For the curious people, Firefox OS kept living in a way, being used as the foundation for KaiOS, which was a smart operative system for “dumb” phones. This one took off in certain parts of the world.
I would love another, more privacy focused os. I’ve tried graphene, etc, but something altogether different would be cool.
It would be great, but a big problem that I see with a new, completely different OS is… the apps.
If a new OS not based on Android launches tomorrow, it will have no 3rd party apps, and it will be very hard to catch momentum without WhatsApp, Youtube, Netflix, Spotify, TikTok, Facebook,
TwitterX (🙄), Uber… all of those apps that most people use their phone for 90% of the time.It’s what killed Windows Phone. There was a period of about 6 seconds to get in on the commercial phone OS game, and it was long gone by the time Windows made a legitimate effort (Windows Mobile phones didn’t really count - they were stuck with legacy PDA software).
Honestly, the AT&T exclusivity and the late rollout of the app store (iPhones initially only had the factory apps) were the opening that let Android in.
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i really hope these alt-mobile OS’s take off, i know theres things like pinephone and kde mobile but they’re still a little bit rough around the edges last i checked… at the same time tho maybe i should do some more digging around. i imagine someone’s made a daily-driveable alternate OS for phones at this point
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The N9 was killed by Stephen Elop, the new CEO coming straight from Microsoft with a mission: get Nokia bought off by MS.
Right from the start, he ran an explicit counter-advertisement campaign against the N9 and Meego. Whatever commercial success it would be, this would be the first and last device running MeeGo from Nokia, and there would be no support for MeeGo.
Nokia was to embrace Windows mobile OS, that turned out to be a total disaster. But indeed, after he tanked Nokia, it became cheap enough to bought by MS, as Nokia got both cheap and undsirable by any other big player due to its binding to MS bad mobile OS, and Elop got his VP status back there.
This is a shame in the history of mobile phones and OS!
Later, some former Nokia would start their own phone company reusing part of MeeGo. Jolla was born.
Reminds me of the pre phone/tablet line with webOS and the way hp or better their short lived CEO Leo Apotheker killed it. That was such a shame great devices and great os.
I remember Ars Technica had an article or series on his bad decisions called “Apotheker needs an Apothecary” and lit into him for all the dumb things he was saying and doing. I just don’t see how you can have the manufacturing and branding behemoth HP was then, get giftwrapped Palm and webOS while RIM was still in the process of imploding, and fumble the bag so hard
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I still get mad at this. I had bought Nokias for most of my life and it was probably the biggest and best european tech company and it was destroyed by that idiot.
I resent him slightly less than the idiots who appointed him CEO. To be appointed, you need to come with a plan you present to the board. Who the hell thought “let’s destroy everything that made Nokia successful so far and become a Nth Windows Phone maker!” was a good strategy??
https://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia
Symbian OS still had a very large user base and some support from large customers. The N9 and MeeGo was getting better reviews and customer satisfaction reports than Samsung and Apple’s phones! The obvious strategy was to navigate a transition between the legacy Symbian and a rising and promising MeeGo. But since his mandate was not to make Nokia successful but rather to have bought by MS, he could trash the business at will: made it cheaper for his real employer, MS.
Seriously, that guy should have been jailed!!
This situation was revolting in every way. They destroyed the best european tech company. They had everything. A music service, a maps service superior to Google Maps, mail service, everything. It was sickening.
I thought this was an urban myth or a collective hysteria.
Oh man, I wanted one of those so bad back in the day, how was it?
It was quite slow because of the hardware, it sometimes wouldn’t recognize touches, and the software had so many bugs like that when you got a call, you couldn’t take it because there would be some overlay over the button to take the call which would steal the touch most of the time, etc.
That home button is really cute. Reminds me of the iPod Nano 7
Now it is Kai OS
And it sucks unless you want a feature phone.
commercially, but there’s also https://capyloon.org/
offering a GSI too, so if you have a modern Android lying around you can install it
OS aside, the Nexus 5 was boss.
I wish so much that there was a solid Linux phone that was just as viable as any android-based device.
There are some options, but nothing that just works.
I usually buy last year’s pixel model when they go on sale around end of year. prefer to use my desktop as eyes aren’t great at skimming tiny text. on a 6a which should last until next year. could get by with much less
The 6A is the worst phone I’ve ever had. It never gets a good signal and barely lasts a day of battery. I bought it new.
I recently flexed on some nerds when I whipped out my Zaurus
Based. Do you have a picture?
I wanted to get the clamshell version of one of those a while back, turns out they’re quite expensive (£300) though
