• helenslunch@feddit.nl
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    10 months ago

    We are speculating on Nex’s apparent and “legal” gender.

    No we are not. Maybe you are. I don’t care because it doesn’t matter.

    Whether or not Nex would have been assaulted or bullied in the boys restroom is a pointless deviation from your original question that I answered.

    No, that literally is my original question. The only question that matters in a discussion about bathroom laws.

    We can’t focus on what could have happened in the other restroom

    We absolutely can. Once again, that’s the only thing that matters. When you oppose bathroom laws, you are speculating that they will cause abuse. The author is speculating that this assault occurred as a direct result of bathroom laws. Not me.

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      10 months ago

      Your original question, that I answered…

      They weren’t killed at all because of the laws, which the title of this article is obviously implying. Why does no one cares that the author is intentionally spreading disinformation?

      Let me ask you some things

      The author is speculating that this assault occurred as a direct result of bathroom laws. Not me.

      Why did this assault occur?

      Next question.

      What would be the required evidence to convince you that this assault was related to the bathroom legislation in OK, and the bathroom policies in Nex’s school district?

      Last question.

      Where in the article does the author assert that Nex died directly due to bathroom laws? In quotes please.

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        10 months ago

        Why did this assault occur?

        I don’t know. The author is the only one speculating about that answer.

        What would be the required evidence to convince you that this assault was related to the bathroom legislation in OK, and the bathroom policies in Nex’s school district?

        I don’t know. But the answer is not “it happened in a bathroom” like it is for the author.

        Where in the article does the author assert that Nex died directly due to bathroom laws? In quotes please.

        Seriously? It’s in the title of the article.

        And if you’re going to reply that that doesn’t qualify as an “assertion”, my follow-up question to you would be why you think they decided to include that bit of information in the title at all in an article about a trans kid being beaten in a bathroom? Because it seems incredibly obvious to me.

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          I don’t know. The author is the only one speculating about that answer.

          Perfect, you don’t know why Nex was a assaulted.

          I don’t know. But the answer is not “it happened in a bathroom” like it is for the author.

          Now here, you are admitting that you don’t have any standards to measure how true the authors claims are about Nex’s assault being related to bathroom bills.

          Seriously? It’s in the title of the article.

          Quote from the article please, otherwise, it’s Hitchen’s Razor for your assertion.

          why you think they decided to include that bit of information in the title at all in an article about a trans kid being beaten in a bathroom?

          They included the info because a non-binary student was assaulted in the restroom after a pattern of increasingly frequent bullying started shortly after a bathroom bill targeting transgender and non-binary people was signed in to law. It’s important to context to the event.

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            you don’t know why Nex was a assaulted.

            And I suppose you do?

            you are admitting that you don’t have any standards to measure how true the authors claims are about Nex’s assault being related to bathroom bills.

            LOL this is not an “admission”. This is just basic logic. And what happened to pretending like that’s not what the author was saying? It was literally 1 comment ago.

            Quote from the article please

            Ope, and not we’re back to pretending that’s not what they were saying. Brilliant.

            Like I said, it’s in the title. If you are illiterate, that’s not something I can help you with without telling you what it says, which I’ve done.

            They included the info because a non-binary student was assaulted in the restroom

            Yes I also read the article, thank you.

            It’s important to context to the event.

            It’s only important if you want to imply that it was a cause of the event.

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              Quote from the article please

              Ope, and not we’re back to pretending that’s not what they were saying. Brilliant.

              Hitchen’s Razor cuts deep. You can’t quote it because it wasn’t in the article. You’re standing up a strawman, and a bad strawman you can’t even defend at that.

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                LOOOOLOLOL just cover your eyes and “see no evil”, right? 🙈

                My God, the mental gymnastics people will do to defend someone on “your side” being dishonest.

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                  Sorry, I checked, but couldn’t find “see no evil” or “your side” in the article. Are you sure that you read and understood the piece before you decried it?