UN Security Council passes resolution calling for an “immediate ceasefire” in Gaza, as US shifts position by abstaining from vote

    • Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Biden is playing diplomatic chess. Netanyahu warned the US before the vote that Israel would not participate in a meeting if the US didn’t use its veto. So, now the US didn’t. BTW, Hamas launched rockets at Ashdod right before the Security Council voted confirming its status as an equal fighting party in the war before a ceasefire.

      • gmtom@lemmy.world
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        What you mean to tell me geopolitical diplomacy is more complicated and delicate than the people screaming “genocide Joe” think it is??? Shocking.

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          No. It means enough people screaming genocide Joe loudly enough had a small but tangible impact on American foreign policy.

            • AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world
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              You don’t think that realizing he was pissing off his base, during an election year, has any impact on his choices?

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                Considering those people are not going to vote Trump over this, or probably any issue, I don’t think he cares, no.

                • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.ee
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                  It’s not about people changing their minds. Centrists don’t really exist. It’s about motivating people to actually fucking vote. When people vote, Dems win. When Dems are unpopular, people don’t vote and Rs win because they vote no matter what.

                  • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    No, we’re all happily voting 3rd party. Legit none of us stay home.

                    Edit: Seriously downvote all you want, I’m just letting you genojoe does not win if that’s who you decide to run in the end. Your move, DNC.

                • njm1314@lemmy.world
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                  9 months ago

                  You say that but I think there’s a sizable number that already are voting for Trump

            • soratoyuki@lemmy.world
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              Certainly not, but he definitely cares about the 100,000 people that voted uncommitted in Michigan and the littany of polls that show a majority of Democratic and young voters not supporting current US foreign policy.

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              The uncommitted movement got 100K votes Michigan, and within days the Biden administration started a complete 180 on Israel. It’s more than a few Twitter users and he clearly cares very deeply.

          • gmtom@lemmy.world
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            No

            So you’re unironically arguing that geopolitical diplomacy IS actually simple? Really?

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                That sentence isn’t relevant though is it?

                Do you think geopolitics is that simple or nah?

                • soratoyuki@lemmy.world
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                  Of course the sentence is relevant. I’m not sure why I should bother writing a reply to you when you apparently stop reading them after the first word. Have a good day.

                  • gmtom@lemmy.world
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                    JFC you aren’t even denying it. you guys actually unironically believe it’s that simple.

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          Do you suppose that Bibi believes there are ramifications for going into Rafah now?

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        So you’re saying that Biden had another motivation here: telling Netanyahu, “the US ain’t nobody’s bitch, and you don’t tell me what to do.”

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      9 months ago

      I said elsewhere, “just in time for November.” Didn’t be fooled.