• AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Yes, it’s all the Democrats’ fault that six Republican appointed justices overturned Roe.

    Bullshit.

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      It is absolutely their fault there are more Republicans in the Supreme Court. Justices aren’t naturally occurring by unpredictable Acts of God.

      It is also RBG’s fault, while we’re at it.

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        Your RGB point is the first one of merit. Sure should have left at an advantageous time.

        The judges were appointed by a majority Republican Congress with a republican president. In what way could democrats stop it?

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          Scalia died almost a full year before Obama left office. That was his appointment, but the Dems didn’t bother putting up a fight because they were convinced Clinton would be the next president and wanted to focus on the election. Then in freaking late October 2020, days before the election, they once again allowed another Trump appointment without putting up any sort of fight or stall tactic because they didn’t want to rock the boat before the election.

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          The majority republican congress and the republican president are also their fault. They’re pretty much the only ones running against them.

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            So more people should have voted Democrat, despite misgivings, to avoid a worse outcome that comes from not voting Democrat.

            It’s a two-party system, those are your choices.

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              The party should have fielded better candidates instead of constantly pushing candidates that appeal to right-wing voters who would never even vote for them to begin with.

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                When the farther right candidate wins, that’s the direction they go. It sucks, but they’re going to follow the voters.

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                  Seems that’s the only direction they go since all their wealthy donors prefer it that way which is why we keep getting status quo “business as usual” candidates like Clinton and Biden getting all the party support, while progressive candidates get sidelined, get excluded from debates, get zero media coverage, get treated like lunatics, etc.

                  If you think voters are “getting what they want” then you haven’t been paying attention to politics in this country.

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              That is exactly the kind of dogshit strategy that disenfranchises voters, loses elections and gives republicans a majority.

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                What “strategy?” That’s what the system is. It’s a two-party system, inherently.

                You have two candidates to pick from. You either pick the candidate who is closer to your ideals or you pick the candidate that’s farther away from your ideals. If you don’t vote or you vote for a “third party” candidate then you’re just throwing your choice away and abdicating it to those who do vote for one of those two options.

                If you want it to be different from that then the fundamental voting system itself needs to be changed. The current one that America operates under inevitably becomes two-party. CPG Grey did a video a few years ago explaining why this is so.

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                  Banking on voters picking the least terrible option instead of giving them actual reasons to vote is a dogshit strategy that disenfranchises voters, loses elections, and gives republicans a majority. That dogshit strategy.

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                    “Picking the least terrible option” is a reason to vote. It’s the only one that the system allows for.

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                  the video you linked called it strategic voting, and the real takeaway from that video is that strategic voting leads to voters having fewer choices and losing representation.

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                    If they don’t vote strategically then they give the advantage to their opponents. The alternative is to take votes away from a party that doesn’t quite align with you but could win and give them instead to a party that can’t win, resulting in an increased chance of the party that doesn’t align with you at all winning.

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            In that case it’s their parents faults for fucking.

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              It’s not their parents fault they’re incompetent corrupt pieces of shit. Or maybe it is a little bit, just not as much.