Did I say we can wait on them? No. I said change takes time. And it does. Can we go out and ask everyone on the planet/US to change out their car for an EV tomorrow? No we can’t. Things take time. Sounds like you should have beef with the people that protested voted against Jimmy Carter, against Gore, and against Hillary. We should have moved the needle a long time ago.
And there are still other items to be worked on that people demand, like student debt, the economy, unions, chips act, ukraine, etc. Things take time.
Why are you talking about things taking time as if we’re slowly progressing in the right direction? Hell no, we’ve been moving in the direction of more gas powered truck and SUV sales, more gas production, more highways, all of it promoted by democrats.
First the entire context was “How was Biden worse than expected?” to which I answered that some people think everything can happen on a dime, which they can’t because they take time.
As for EV incentives, China has been dominating with EV adoption lately with affordable options. Theyve got a damn 11k brand new EV that is so enticing, the US and EU are banning it from import because it would be too successful here.
Ahh the “not enough!”, aka “not fast enough!” You want more? Then vote Dems in consistently and overwhelmingly.
And then the “it’s not changing fast enough!”. You do realize those are private purchases right? The government can’t mandate what people buy.
And then the China tariff. Like it it not they’re going to protect American industry from low wage made cars.
So we’re basically back to, congrats you just showed you’re exactly the “not fast enough!” person. And we are moving in the right direction with, well everything I already listed. You want to move faster? Give Dems overwhelming and consistent victories.
I really think you’re missing the point. Not fast enough is not good enough when we’re talking about climate change! Yes, we had to take drastic actions yesterday, and the best thing we can do is take drastic actions today. We’re just kicking the can down the road, and I don’t think there’s any road left.
My entire point is that there are certain categories of things in which you do not have time to act, and you must do it quickly and firmly.
No I’m not missing the point. I want it to be done fast, I know that things take time. Saying “not fast enough” is not a valid complaint of Biden or of Dems because the reality of the world is that things take time. And the reality whether you like it or it not, climate change is not even a winning issue. People rank issues as 1 economy 2 inflation 3 in distant third place abortion.
But back to this topic, I really wonder what industry you work in that you think we can flip a switch and the world changes.
Think about this. Want to build a new metro line? Good idea right, it’ll reduce car usage. From the day you say “here’s money, go”, it will take minimum 4 years, more likely minimum 6 years. For a single line. Then you have the other guy complaining “but there are still car sales”. No fucking shit, it’s not built yet. Things take time whether you like it or not.
So your solution then is just tough luck, deal with it, right? Try to mitigate it, but not enough, really. And just hope it doesn’t get too bad too quickly, right?
Don’t forget the blind support for the Democratic party. They haven’t done much to fix things or even stall Republicans, but if we just reward them some more then they’ll start acting in our best interests.
Did I say we can wait on them? No. I said change takes time. And it does. Can we go out and ask everyone on the planet/US to change out their car for an EV tomorrow? No we can’t. Things take time. Sounds like you should have beef with the people that protested voted against Jimmy Carter, against Gore, and against Hillary. We should have moved the needle a long time ago.
And there are still other items to be worked on that people demand, like student debt, the economy, unions, chips act, ukraine, etc. Things take time.
Why are you talking about things taking time as if we’re slowly progressing in the right direction? Hell no, we’ve been moving in the direction of more gas powered truck and SUV sales, more gas production, more highways, all of it promoted by democrats.
First the entire context was “How was Biden worse than expected?” to which I answered that some people think everything can happen on a dime, which they can’t because they take time.
Second, we are moving in the right direction. Unprecedented green energy policies, EV incentives, charging infrastructure, pretty sure there was stuff for train building, quick googling says $20.5 Billion for transit funding https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/biden-harris-administration-provide-205-billion-federal-funding-support-transit. Congrats, you showed you are the exact person that thinks the world can all change on a dime.
And some 20 times more than that is going to highways
Meanwhile, gas guzzling SUV sales have skyrocketed recently https://www.theautopian.com/heres-the-exact-year-suv-sales-overtook-sedan-sales-in-america/
As for EV incentives, China has been dominating with EV adoption lately with affordable options. Theyve got a damn 11k brand new EV that is so enticing, the US and EU are banning it from import because it would be too successful here.
Ahh the “not enough!”, aka “not fast enough!” You want more? Then vote Dems in consistently and overwhelmingly.
And then the “it’s not changing fast enough!”. You do realize those are private purchases right? The government can’t mandate what people buy.
And then the China tariff. Like it it not they’re going to protect American industry from low wage made cars.
So we’re basically back to, congrats you just showed you’re exactly the “not fast enough!” person. And we are moving in the right direction with, well everything I already listed. You want to move faster? Give Dems overwhelming and consistent victories.
I really think you’re missing the point. Not fast enough is not good enough when we’re talking about climate change! Yes, we had to take drastic actions yesterday, and the best thing we can do is take drastic actions today. We’re just kicking the can down the road, and I don’t think there’s any road left.
My entire point is that there are certain categories of things in which you do not have time to act, and you must do it quickly and firmly.
No I’m not missing the point. I want it to be done fast, I know that things take time. Saying “not fast enough” is not a valid complaint of Biden or of Dems because the reality of the world is that things take time. And the reality whether you like it or it not, climate change is not even a winning issue. People rank issues as 1 economy 2 inflation 3 in distant third place abortion.
But back to this topic, I really wonder what industry you work in that you think we can flip a switch and the world changes.
Think about this. Want to build a new metro line? Good idea right, it’ll reduce car usage. From the day you say “here’s money, go”, it will take minimum 4 years, more likely minimum 6 years. For a single line. Then you have the other guy complaining “but there are still car sales”. No fucking shit, it’s not built yet. Things take time whether you like it or not.
So your solution then is just tough luck, deal with it, right? Try to mitigate it, but not enough, really. And just hope it doesn’t get too bad too quickly, right?
Don’t forget the blind support for the Democratic party. They haven’t done much to fix things or even stall Republicans, but if we just reward them some more then they’ll start acting in our best interests.
My solution is to vote. Give Dems consistent and overwhelming victories.
When you start putting out silly strawmans you show you’re not having a good faith discussion. So I think I’m out.