Of course not. I just don’t think car ownership is going anywhere for decades. The government doesn’t move that fast for anything. I asked in another place in the thread why the guy thought that but just got downvoted for some reason.
Precisely because the government drags their feet with proper regulation is why we are here
The corporations keep eroding your rights to own anything in the contracts they make you sign (to buy a car for example)
They reserve the right to turn features off or hide them behind paywalls without your agreement … They reserve the right to spy on your with sensors you paid for and sell the data to whomever they want without compensation to you or liability over the consequences of that data being out there
They reserve the right to terminate your warranty if you do anything to your car they do not approve of
These measures literally dilute what “owning a car” means… This is what people refer to when they say ownership is coming to an end. It doesn’t mean you can’t have a car… It means the car is not quite yours and may be doing more work and money for someone else after you nicely paid for it
I get what you’re saying, and I’m as frustrated as any other privacy-aware person, but until they can prevent you from reselling your car to another person (where all of this stuff means diddly squat), there’s really nothing they can do. And I doubt that’s going to happen anytime soon.
Well, they are already mandating how you can use or modify your car… And Tesla did put financial penalties on reselling the cybertrucks so we are definitely not far from even your definition of ownership being hindered
Till they get rid of car ownership; then you are on the hook for damaging their car.
Yeah but I’ll be dead before that happens!
Hmm I hope this is not a veiled threat of suicide… Because the disappearance of ownership is almost here
Of course not. I just don’t think car ownership is going anywhere for decades. The government doesn’t move that fast for anything. I asked in another place in the thread why the guy thought that but just got downvoted for some reason.
Precisely because the government drags their feet with proper regulation is why we are here
The corporations keep eroding your rights to own anything in the contracts they make you sign (to buy a car for example)
They reserve the right to turn features off or hide them behind paywalls without your agreement … They reserve the right to spy on your with sensors you paid for and sell the data to whomever they want without compensation to you or liability over the consequences of that data being out there
They reserve the right to terminate your warranty if you do anything to your car they do not approve of
These measures literally dilute what “owning a car” means… This is what people refer to when they say ownership is coming to an end. It doesn’t mean you can’t have a car… It means the car is not quite yours and may be doing more work and money for someone else after you nicely paid for it
I get what you’re saying, and I’m as frustrated as any other privacy-aware person, but until they can prevent you from reselling your car to another person (where all of this stuff means diddly squat), there’s really nothing they can do. And I doubt that’s going to happen anytime soon.
Well, they are already mandating how you can use or modify your car… And Tesla did put financial penalties on reselling the cybertrucks so we are definitely not far from even your definition of ownership being hindered
Teslas terms are egregious. I honestly don’t know how people are willing to put up with it.
Indeed my good man. And it’s not even like those cars are the best or only choice in the planet
Better get to it then. I’m predicting somewhere in the next 5 years, true car ownership will be dead for new cars
We’re already at that point. I will never buy a new car.
Is it different for used “newish” cars? Or were you referring to used “pre 2018” cars?
Depends on the manufacturer and model.