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jeffw@lemmy.world to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 11 months ago

G7 agrees to loan Ukraine $50 billion from the interest on frozen Russian assets

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G7 agrees to loan Ukraine $50 billion from the interest on frozen Russian assets

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jeffw@lemmy.world to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 11 months ago
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    They are burying Ukraine in debt they will never be able to repay and its resources will be gobbled up by various capitalists. THIS was the plan from the start

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      THIS was the plan from the start

      Lol yea, because Putin secretly loves western/capitalist countries and played along to attack Ukraine! /s

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        “You are welcome, comrade biden”

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        This goes back to McCain, Kerry, and Nuland destabilizing Ukraine.

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          I thought it went back to Bill Clinton. Make up your mind.

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            Bill Clinton helped give us Putin, that trio helped destabilize Ukraine.

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              LMAO yea ok buddy, Ukraine was totally unstable when Russia started the war lolol /s

              For better tagging classification of your user can you specify which of the following apply to you:

              1. An employee of a Russian disinformation campaign
              2. A volunteer of a Russian disinformation campaign
              3. An American who drank too much of the Kool aid
              4. A European who drank too much of the Kool aid
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                They’re whichever one absolves Putin from any responsibility for his own actions.

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      The alternative is burying Ukraine in Russians

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        and burying ukrainians in dirt.

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        Not really, initially some countries wanted to make it a gift. After all it comes from Russian assets and Ukraine is being invaded by Russia. Now they changed it so the countries with the worlds largest economies can also profit from the assets they took from Russia.

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      Having debt is not bad in it self. The UK paid their last WW1 debts back in 2011 or something. I know the UK is in a bad state but it is not because of those war debts.

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        Counterexample: Haiti’s independence debts from France for daring to free slaves

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          I should have said “debt is not always bad.”

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            thank you

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        The UK didnt have trillions of dollars in natural resources that were wanted by the US

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          Ukraine feeds a lot of the world, and it’s in everyone’s best interest that it keeps doing that.

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          Oh I see. So the US master plan was to make putin attack Ukraine, give Ukraine loans, ???, putin pulls out of Ukraine, Ukraine now in debt to the US, ???, profit?

          putin must be a complete moron to go along with this. Unless you are saying that hes also psrt of the evil capitalist world order?

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      My god, read the bloody article.

      They gave ukraine a 50bn loan which is being paid off by the interest on the frozen Russian assets at approx 3bn a year.

      Ukrainians will not have to pay back a si gle penny of this “loan”

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        It’s a shill. Just tag them as shill and move on

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        All the money provided them since the start has been in the form of loans

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      I knew there was a reason Putin invaded!

      To facilitate Western business interests! It’s so obvious now!

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        This started way before the Ukrainian invasion.

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          I get it now! This was in the works for years! Western business interests installed Putin as a sleeper agent in Russia and then forced him to invade Ukraine!

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            If it werent for US interference in Russian elections under Clinton we wouldnt have Putin. But no, the US started this process years before.

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              I’m pretty sure Yeltsin is the reason Russia has Putin.

              Yeltsin oversaw the dissolution of the ussr and brought capitalism to Russia, of course the west wanted him to be president of Russia. All he did was ask Bill for favors on the world stage (and got most of what he asked for).

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                Before the election Yeltsin had a 6% approval rating, and somehow won the election by a landslide.

                “Yanks to the rescue” was the headline by Time Magazine

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                  Yestsin won with 58 and 54 percent of the vote in his two elections, hardly a ‘landslide’:

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Russian_presidential_election

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Russian_presidential_election

                  Putin’s lowest was 53, in his first election. The latest was 88%, with most of the others being in the 70% range.

                  Historically though, Russians, have a way of guaranteeing results like that. Yeltsin is kind of a low percentage outlier by comparison:

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Soviet_Union_legislative_electionr

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_Soviet_Union_legislative_election

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Soviet_Union_legislative_election

                  https://www.npr.org/2024/03/18/1196979929/in-unsurprising-result-putin-is-reelected

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              Got it. Clinton interfered with the Russian elections in the 1990s knowing that one day, Putin would become dictator-for-life and invade Ukraine on a spurious pretext in order to create new business interests for Western companies.

              Sounds very plausible.

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                Clinton is to blame for the entire Putin ordeal. Had the US not interfered, Yeltsin would have never been reelected and Putin would have never risen to where he is now.

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                  Why start at Clinton? If it hadn’t been for the Vikings, there would be no Russia.

                  So maybe we should blame the Vikings for Putin invading Ukraine.

                  Or, and maybe this is going way out on a limb- we blame Putin for doing what he could have just not done and could still stop doing rather than blame a guy who hasn’t been president in a quarter century?

                  You are trying really hard to not connect the knife sticking in the stab wound with the murder.

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