I totally understand people getting angry at this sort of thing… I’m 100% behind their cause, not so sure on their tactics.
But it’s just a shame that people are not as angry about the inaction on climate change. The inconvenience caused by the protesters is a micro-fraction of the pain that climate change is already causing and will continue to cause.
The whole purpose of protest is to be disruptive. Protests that don’t disrupt don’t get anything done because you will never hear about it and you won’t know about it. Who is going to report a protest that’s indistinguishable from everyday life?
A lot of people don’t, no. And that’s the problem… which is why I was saying it’s a shame. We are in for far more grief than almost anyone realises… the scale of the effects is well outside what most people can really imagine. And it can be avoided if we take concerted action… even at this late stage. But we’re not.
Article literally says started just before 8, taken into custody at 815.
And yes, they got delayed 15 min. A well paid trade makes what - 60-80 and hour? Assault charges are now worth what… $15-20??? Can I now throw some around for a little less than dinner? For making roadworks? Because a meeting runs over by 15 min? There is no way to justify assault for a 15 min wait.
How much should we hate people who do road works or bicyclists or people who break down and cause delays. I am presuming you would support beating the shit out of them because you are a tradie and they cost you money and anybody who causes a tradie to lose money should be violently assaulted right?
I totally understand people getting angry at this sort of thing… I’m 100% behind their cause, not so sure on their tactics.
But it’s just a shame that people are not as angry about the inaction on climate change. The inconvenience caused by the protesters is a micro-fraction of the pain that climate change is already causing and will continue to cause.
The whole purpose of protest is to be disruptive. Protests that don’t disrupt don’t get anything done because you will never hear about it and you won’t know about it. Who is going to report a protest that’s indistinguishable from everyday life?
This is a much more immediate and tangible effect though. Climate change is much more abstract.
Is it abstract to people who have lost their relatives or their houses to weather events this year?
People don’t think like that though.
A lot of people don’t, no. And that’s the problem… which is why I was saying it’s a shame. We are in for far more grief than almost anyone realises… the scale of the effects is well outside what most people can really imagine. And it can be avoided if we take concerted action… even at this late stage. But we’re not.
Only because there aren’t enough protests. If we had more protests and caused more tradies to be late then they would think that way.
Maybe they should?
You don’t get to decide how people think.
You can change the way they think by protesting. That’s the whole purpose of protesting.
I don’t see a measurable increase in extreme weather events as “abstract”.
One of those things is numbers and statistics, one of them is right in front of you.
ok, you need to look up the definition of abstract, because numbers and statistics are, by their nature, not abstract.
Pedantry, my friend.🥱 You’re missing the point.
15 min late and delaying 5,000 or so people is literally a number and stats
Not when it’s your time being wasted
Besides, the delay caused would have been a lot more than fifteen minutes.
Article literally says started just before 8, taken into custody at 815.
And yes, they got delayed 15 min. A well paid trade makes what - 60-80 and hour? Assault charges are now worth what… $15-20??? Can I now throw some around for a little less than dinner? For making roadworks? Because a meeting runs over by 15 min? There is no way to justify assault for a 15 min wait.
The delay caused by this would have been much worse than fifteen minutes, because this would have had a ripple effect all through rush hour.
And trades charge that much, they probably keep less than half of it as profit.
Are you a child? Because you seem genuinely ignorant of how the world works.
How much should we hate people who do road works or bicyclists or people who break down and cause delays. I am presuming you would support beating the shit out of them because you are a tradie and they cost you money and anybody who causes a tradie to lose money should be violently assaulted right?
Nope - mid 30s.
Delay would have been worse than 15 - but I bet this guy wasn’t at the back of the queue.
Yes, less than that profit unless they are self employed. So therefore assault for even less than that.
Well aware, and can understand the context as well.