Asheville NC and Western NC has been destroyed by hurricane Helene and flooding. People are saying the same boring tired things there and sharing the same misinformation.
This is just ordinary weather which happens all the time.
The only thing we can do is pray.
Climate change isn’t real
This is dangerous to say things like this because it makes people believe that there’s no climate change, and that is ordinary and expected when that’s not even remotely true. It’s leading people to ignorantly become complacent, not contact their government, and when disasters like hurricanes happen, they don’t evacuate because they don’t believe it’ll be serious.
I started commenting on everything telling people that climate change is causing these issues and got the most unhinged glue-sniffer responses ever like
‘this has always been like this’ or ‘liberal snowflake tears’
and the worst ones are always religious.
‘we can’t do anything to save our planet, you need to pray. Send your prayers’
God didn’t create this issue? We are ruining our planet!
Example 1. We now have to surround hospital in Tampa Florida with a literal fucking wall just for ordinary storms
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFSX8mRS/
@Kevin R. Sullivan:Hurricanes have nothing to do with climate change
Deranged comments like this are very dangerous and spread false misinformation
Becoming??? It has been for almost a decade. Anyone else remember the idiocy of flat-earthers??
The difference is that flat Earth theory people were honestly very few and far between. There were not a whole lot of these people around, but now, it seems like at least a quarter of the population if not more Don’t believe in climate change, because if you look at every election in the USA, it’s damn close. That means about 40 to 48% of the population honestly believes the bullshit that the far-right conservatives are pushing on them. Just look at Florida if you need any example. Banning books like we are in the 1800s, now they took down information that has the words climate change off of the official state websites, which is extremely dangerous after a major storms have decimated entire towns and cities. And people still won’t believe it
There is no difference, flat-earth was the test. It showed that with little effort duping people online is easy because our educational system does not teach critical thinking.
Critical thinking and how to cross check your sources to verify if something is true are invaluable skills.
I graduated high school in 2006 and we had to learn both of those in order write research papers. I grew up in a blue state, and went to public school. My English teacher also taught us that “anyone can get a book published, or write an article online, so always cross check your sources and make sure they aren’t making stuff up.”
They taught us those skills so we could write papers for college, but I feel like they’re even more important now just for navigating the internet.
The education system can’t and won’t ever teach “critical thinking” because the point of education is indoctrination and control.
Can’t tell if fascist who wants to religiously indoctrinate their children in isolation, or has legitimate, sane issues.
arent they refrencing the famous quote from some guy in the school admin. talking about how school is for training people to be a part of the working class.
Education is learning critical thinking. People, politics, corpos, etc. use the education system for propaganda and indoctrination. The education isn’t how people receive it. It’s important to not mix them, otherwise you’re already in the indoctrination process.
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From birth we’re indoctrinated with lies about everything: cars, environment, nationalism/imperialism, racism, zionism, etc.
Then people act surprised when nobody believes the truth.
People can’t figure our who is in charge and how they profit from this circus.
Do you really expect them to understand mid level topics like cars, environment, nationalism/imperialism, racism, zionism
Yes, I expect basic literacy
Profit driven social media is the problem.
Capitalism is the problem. Profit driven anything is just a symptom.
The regime is the problem… You are focusing on social constructs when what we see if the result of rich peoples actions. They rule us like thisa dn they make profit from it.
As long as humans value a forum, of any description, of any economic structure, someone will find a way to corrupt it. The problem isn’t money, the problem is bad actors trying to monopolize your attention. Take away Facebook’s profit structure, does that make a bad actor any less likely to want to post misinformation?
I blame profit driven SM only so far as that in an effort to appeal to a wider audience, they have succeeded and now there are even more people online using them so we actually have a closer look at reality and how there’s a shitton of people who don’t see the reality of climate change anywhere.
That effort to appeal is by boosting ragebait to get engagement and foster addiction to the platform, in order to sell more ads.
Hence, morons get a bigger megaphone and groupthink takes over. See also the rise of Nazis/nationalism, etc.
Line go up, corpo no care
Yes, it’s a dangerous combination of media/IT illiteracy/incompetence within the general public and profit-driven proprietary social media algorithms that only aim to keep people engaged for the longest time, no matter the content they are being served. And usually, the more extreme the content is, the higher the engagement, the more revenue to be made from serving ads to the users and selling their collected data. This currently leads to a rise of misinformation, anti-scientific thinking, and so on. Which just so happens to align with extreme right-wing ideologies.
This currently leads to a rise of misinformation, anti-scientific thinking, and so on. Which just so happens to align with extreme right-wing ideologies.
It’s not some accident that just happens. Fash are actively opposed to science, thrive on misinformation, and so on. And capital supports fascism because it profits.
My most hated meme people use right now is: “We’ve had the worst storms/rains/drought/fires of the century every year, that’s just how it is.”
Bitch if it’s the worst of the century every year that means it’s getting worse every year! There’s no status quo in this!
The thing with climate change is, like science, it’s true whether you believe it or not. I’ve seen those types of comments as well because I follow some news pages and I honestly don’t even bother engaging. The people who have the time to go on comment sections of news articles like that are never going to be convinced otherwise.
Th evidence is undeniable right now, whether you trust the science or not, the facts are easily observable to the layman.
We have a new summer heat record every year, for at least 10 years.
Hurricanes and severe weather becomes more frequent and more powerdul every year.
“Is becoming”…? Where you been bro.
Becoming? Was it ever not?
I don’t like but do understand being selfish. I don’t understand being stupid.
Burning your own house down is stupid, not selfish.
To say that humans don’t have an impact on climate change is stupid. To say that climate change isn’t real in general is advanced stupid.
We have always had hurricanes. Is climate change real? Yes. Both are true.
Completely agree. Ironically most news I get is second hand news from others on TikTok, not people reporting news but talking about stuff that’s happening they learned. And before anybody says this. No I don’t take any website app or person at face value. I do my research. TikTok usually is pretty accurate when it’s not one of the “News reporting” accounts
I do my research.
No, don’t do that. Experts said that we don’t know enough to do our own research. What even does that entail?
You are also sharing disinformation as well. You say climate change, but you do not define it.
Many people are aware of El Nino / La Nina and that they cycle roughly 7 years. What most people don’t know, is that there are cycles that occur every 25 years, and more that are even longer than that.
Now consider when those cycles happen to coincide, there is an increased change until those cycles move back out of sync.
Yes there is climate change, but a large majority of it is out of yours or anyone else’s control.
For anyone stumbling onto this who actually wants to be educated, the science has practically unanimously agreed that climate change is mainly caused by human activity. No expert is unaware of the cycles that temporarily affect climate. They are well studied, modeled, and found to pale in comparison to human-made climate change. You can find comparisons between human and natural drivers, with sources from expert organizations and scientific studies, here and here. Funnily enough, the NOAA, which this commenter used as a source for El Niño and La Niña below, also hosts this article which literally starts by linking to a page that points out how climate change is mostly caused by humans.
Turning egypt into desert wasn’t caused by human factor, it was caused by change of earth axial rotation https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/green-sahara-african-humid-periods-paced-by-82884405/ and it happened within less than 2-3 centuries. Far more drastic than what we see alleged by “human greenhouse gas emissions”. It’s all well documented that natural causes can be far more drastic than whatever we do on earth ( several degrees in global earth scale ). And no, climatology is not united around the greenhouse gas effect at least not about alleged scale. Cycles around 20k, 40k, 100k years are not unheard https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/green-sahara-african-humid-periods-paced-by-82884405/
El Niño / La Niña are terms that the uneducated just learned about but pretend have always been common knowledge only because it’s something to desperately grasp into to “explain away” climate change.
It’s no different from the logic behind the same people who say “Climate change can’t be real, it was cold out today!”
Well apparently you don’t understand it either. My point is that there are opposing weather patterns that occur over larger periods you are unaware of.
It’s only you grasping to at insults to have your cringe whinge because someone doesn’t believe in your opinion.
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ninonina.html
Get bent.
Oh I fully understand it, which evidently you don’t or you’d understand why that has nothing to do with the absence of climate change. You could try educating yourself but… you won’t. If you did that, you’d lose your what in mind is an anti-climate change silver bullet and then you’d have to spend even more energy finding another one.
What I have isn’t an opinion it’s just an object fact, so you should just bend yourself.
In case anyone needs an example, here’s one
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