Summary
The 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld Indiana’s law banning puberty blockers and hormones for transgender minors, aligning with similar laws in 26 GOP-led states.
Plaintiffs argued the law discriminates based on sex and interferes with parental rights to direct medical treatment for their children, but the 2-1 ruling dismissed these claims.
The court stated the law applies equally to all minors and parents don’t have unrestricted rights to medical treatments.
This decision comes as the Supreme Court prepares to review a similar Tennessee case, potentially setting a nationwide precedent.
Cool, more teen suicides. Probably even pre-teens.
I think this one is more difficult than it sounds.
You are asking if someone should have the right to make a life long decision, before they have matured enough to make a life long decision. Tie that in with parents who can both have their child’s best interests at heart, or their own preconceived religion and views on it and there is no wide reaching decision that is best for everyone.
Saying that, they would have said no regardless of the discussions and best interests of the individual. These discussions need to be had, but
quietlypretty fucking confident they won’t happen in the next 4 years.
Much like book bans in school libraries that have moved to city libraries and all the other bans that started in schools, this will soon move from bans on children getting healthcare, to bans on adults getting healthcare once they use the “save the children” rhetoric to make their followers comfortable with the prejudices in general.
Trans erasure in action.
I hope denying healthcare to children was worth owning the libs.
The frustrating part of all of this is that it is true that puberty blockers aren’t approved by the FDA for delaying puberty for gender affirming treatments, but it is used anyway as an off-label use. Criticism of off-label uses of pharmaceuticals is a perfectly valid concern to have.
But if you actually had this concern in good faith, you would be putting pressure on the FDA to investigate this use of puberty blockers directly and make a call or whether or not this is an approved use. You would be demanding that the FDA fill in the gaps in their knowledge, and only allow this use of puberty blockers if there was no harm found.
Going straight to the legislature and banning it outright is underhanded as shit. The only reason to do that is because you know that the FDA has no reason to disapprove of this use, and you want to medically oppress trans people regardless of what the science actually says.
It’s transphobic bullshit, and anyone telling you that their concern is the safety and welfare of children is lying to you, because if that were true they would act like it.
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I try not to get to political because there are two sides to every story especially regarding gender since it inherently should not be a political issue at all but…
Good, we should not have any kind of gender reassignment treatments or surgery’s until the brain is %100 developed and the person can be %100 sure it is there life long decision and understand all the consequences. You know like with any contract, major life decision or medical decision.
This has the potential to alter developing minds and there politically biased parents do not have the ability to make a proper medical decision. Half the time they don’t have the ability to make proper life saving choices let alone elective surgeries/treatments.
“I’m not going to get political but”
“Gets political”
“Spouts off right wing talking points”
“Demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the transition process”
I did not say I am not going to. the point of that statement is to point out how abnormal it is for me to weigh in on a political issue and how egregious I believe this to be, and I absolutely do not care if it is right left up or down, this should not be politicized, it is human experimentation.
Hi, I’m a trans woman and I just wanna say that the name you chose for yourself suits you really well well!
K. That is a character assassination. Not a necessary argument for people with valid arguments.
Hey, I just like how you picked out your name. It’s a compliment. Why do you gotta be so toxic about yourself? Is it the brain full of hatred? I bet it’s the brain full of hatred.
Best of luck with *gestures at everything*.
Consider possibly not making trans peoples’ lives harder, yeah? Don’t contribute to that.
And that is picking a fight also not a valid argument.
As for making trans lives worse quite frankly your life is less important than children. You wanted a fight right?
Hey, chum, I’m just trying to be uplifting, you wanna come at me with fights, I’m trying to give you a compliment. No wonder you’re not getting laid if you try to fight every woman who says something nice about you.
You know damn well this isn’t about surgery. It’s about hormones, and it says so right there in the summary. You didn’t even have to click the link. Nobody is doing breast implants on trans minors (only on cis minors, which is perfectly fine for some reason).
Forcing a trans kid to go through the wrong puberty even though they know they are trans is extremely traumatic. It’s life ruining. It alters the voice, the shape of the torso, the shape of the face, and facial and body hair in ways that either can’t be fixed at all, or can only be fixed with expensive surgeries later on.
And if you want people to be absolutely sure about their status before going on hormone replacement therapy, then that is exactly what puberty blockers are for. Leuprorelin prevents puberty so that the kid can figure themself out for a year or two, and then make sure they go through the correct puberty. Even if they decide not to be transgender in the end, they can just go off leuprorelin and start puberty.
Quite frankly IDGAF, it is going to alter the kids minds and body and I trust absolutely nobody on this planet to make that decision without bias and political interference and influence. And the amount of people who legitimately need these hormones is far far less than the people who will be given politically motivated or poorly informed or poorly thought out, you are risking an epidemic of the exact thing you are trying to avoid. This is unethical and should not be politicized.
You’re against things that alter kids minds and bodies? Like puberty? Well luckily there’s a way to stop that! Puberty blockers, which have been safely used for decades and are considered a medical necessity by WPATH as well as many other health organizations!
Why are we debating this at all, shouldn’t it be the decision of the parents? You don’t agree, that’s fine, you can tell your kids no. If someone else looks at the evidence and believes it’s true, and believes this is hugely beneficial to their kid, why should the government have a say in their kid’s medical treatment?
Parents are the absolute worst people to make decisions of their children’s medical decisions they are just the default, in a perfect world we would have a body of politically isolated experts determining medical decisions for children. But we don’t live in that world so until we do we should have as few elective medical treatment’s on children as possible.
Dude stop spouting off with these thought crimes. Stop usibg ur brain and thinking for yourself. Do as ur told believe what ur told to. Be a good little sheep like everyone else. Otherwise your a fascist
Going through the wrong puberty is also a life long decision with major consequences. Hope that helps!
Ok, and you can trust politicians parents and children to choose the right gender? We have the same choice no matter if we ban or allow this, the only differences is:
- Politically motivated people can weigh in.
- the amount of people suffering right now is overwhelmingly lower than the people who have the potential to be misgendered and given the wrong drugs.
