• Juice@midwest.social
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    A system that restrict democracy to checking a box every 4 years while silencing peaceful opposition calling for peace, is not a democracy it is tyranny. You won’t be able to sell tyranny to me as democracy. And every cycle that the deep political corruption at the heart of the Democrats exposes itself for what it is, more and more people see it for what it is.

    They didn’t create these contradictions, neither did you and neither did I. But many people are responsible and benefit directly from the carnage. And your plan to oppose them is to stay dumb and stand in line every 4 years.

    I said it elsewhere, but it just shows the divide in the Democrats between the progressives and the establishment. The fact that you’ve resigned to a single unconscionable viewpoint doesn’t mean that other people are stupid for going the opposite way. The Palestinian people have been the victims of liberal pragmatism for 75 years. I know you want to collapse all morality and ethics into a single moment when a ballot is cast, but seriously don’t you think that view is somewhat convenient for the establishment? Is this the society you want to take part in and participate in?

    No its not, you dread to do it but once every 2-4 years as a matter of duty. But people who don’t subscribe to your sense of moral duty, no different than the enemy right? Cant you see how self defeating it all is?

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      Refusing to participate grants you zero benefit, and makes it easier for the system to continue.

      This has nothing to do with political viewpoints, this is math. There’s no way in hell you’re going to tear it down from the outside so what’s the plan? Sit there and feel smug that you did nothing while everyone suffers?

      Checking the box is the bare minimum, and you couldn’t even do that, because it made you feel icky.

      Your protest vote, or non vote (same thing), holds negative value for the people of Palestine.

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        As I said elsewhere, I did vote I have voted and I will continue to vote. So nice strawman. I never discouraged people from voting, but I understand why people didnt. I’m against the browbeating of people for voting their conscience.

        Some people don’t know what it means to stand up for what they believe in, since their beliefs appear to be whatever will opportunistically win. Then they condescendingly chide others for risking their own bodies, for having strong beliefs. Those people will betray in the first opportunity, because they only perceive others as a means to get what they themselves want. So frankly, you can shove your pragmatism. Your pragmatism didn’t defeat Trump either, but at least I don’t stand with child murderers and rapists and worse.

        I reject your shallow, faulty reasoning.
        Please leave me alone.

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            No one could possibly both vote for a democrat strategically and not be sanctimonious about it, is that it? Says more about you than it does about me buddy

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                I am not vocal about not voting, I am vocal about the democrats criminal negligence and complicity in atrocities. Never did I say someone shouldn’t vote.

                You can’t even make sense of this conversation without making me into a strawman. Just accusing me of lying for no reason. What so I can get one over on the other guy?

                Again, it says more about you than it does about me.