• Rhoeri@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Holy shit this has become too stupid to even follow along with. You’re trying so hard to derail the discussion that your straw men have built their own straw men.

    We’re going to have to finish this here. I can’t stop laughing enough to continue.

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      2 days ago

      “Oh no, lost one election guess I’ll die.”

      You have no plans but to trust Democrats and scream at anyone who says we should try something else. You think the sky is falling yet you aren’t even trying to do anything about it. Just waiting to die. 👍

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        And you have no plans but to yell at buildings and pretend you didn’t help cause this.

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          I said labor organizing. We don’t just yell at buildings, we can bring the economy to a halt. Bankrupt every fucking supporter of this regime and send the economy up in flames. I’m not just trying to organize mere protest, it has to hit the ruling class where it hurts.

          Don’t surrender in advance. It’s embarrassing.

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            And what exactly do you think you’re going to do that hasn’t already been tried and failed over and over and over for the past several decades?

            Just like your useless protest votes- you’re not doing anything new. It’s always the same bullshit every time:

            1. Ignorantly think you know better then everyone else
            2. Cause the problem that others showed you how to avoid
            3. Feign innocence and blame everyone else for the disaster you helped cause
            4. Pass yourselves off as the solution.

            So, no… I’m not buying it and it seems not many others are either. This shit is in a large part- your fault. We told you this would happen. THEY told you what would happen. You don’t get to pretend to have the answers here. You have nothing.

            So sit down, pay attention this time, learn your lesson, and do better next time. If there even is a next time.

            This discussion is now over. I have little tolerance for your generic and ineffective grassroots bravado.

            Enjoy your last word. I know how important it is to you people.

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              And what exactly do you think you’re going to do that hasn’t already been tried and failed over and over and over for the past several decades?

              I told you! Mass labor organization on a scale similar what forced the government to enact the New Deal. Work stoppages, organized boycotts, slowdowns and disruptions, we can break the supply chain and make the economy scream. Stop being so fucking cynical, this has literally worked before.

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                  Why are you even alive? I have revolutionary optimism, I know we can win through organized and militant labor struggle because it has worked before.

                  You seem to think we’re fucked and there’s nothing we can do. So. Why live?

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                    lol. Okay… I know I said I’d give you the last word, and at this point- I’m convinced you’re a debate troll, but I just can’t resist the appeal of pointing out the seemingly limitless ignorance you have selflessly donated to this discussion.

                    Also- in the event that anyone happens to have the patience to read this far in to the bullshit that you’re spreading here, it’s important to me that people see that you are not even denying your involvement in causing the problem we face.

                    So let’s get to it, shall we?

                    You adamantly refused to participate in the one thing that stood a chance to stop us from having to burn in this dumpster fire. And you have the nerve to play at pageantry and put yourself up on a platform as a revolutionary?

                    That has got to be the be-all-and-all dumbest fucking thing I think I’ve ever seen posted to date. And not only that, but You’ve side-stepped every opportunity you’ve had to acknowledge and apologize for helping cause the fucking mess we’re in, or even acknowledge it. So- it’s painfully obvious that you’re not capable of possessing even the bare minimum amount of self-awareness it takes to process shame.

                    You seem to have no fucking clue or don’t care at all how your actions affect others. You have shown that you have no concern for what happens to anyone other than yourself and appearances.

                    You’re entitled.

                    And that entitlement has hurt hundreds of thousands of people. And all you are concerned with is that you are seen to be one of the ones doing something about it.

                    Lastly- your little grassroots “revolutionary” bullshit is, and will be- ineffective and irrelevant. And the fact that you actually think it can work simply because similar things have worked in the past just goes to illustrate how fucking clueless you can be about everything up to- and beyond this point.

                    Additionally, your use of historical events as a prop to validate the potential effectiveness of acts proposed in the present while willfully ignoring that there is so little similarity between then and now that they don’t even remotely compare is about as bad-faith as it gets. Seriously, that you can even think to consider your nonsense as a viable working model for change illustrates how breathtakingly ignorant and uninformed you are about all of this.

                    Snd even if we were to consider trying your ridiculous suggestion- who do you think is there to listen to your “revolutionary” proposal? Who exists to change shit as a result of your suggestions? Your actions?

                    Look around! Protests are being made illegal! Are you just not paying attention? Trump has the military under his thumb now. And he is contemplating martial law. So… there is no appeal to reason here anymore because there are no more reasonable people remaining to appeal to! No one remains that really has the authority to do anything about this shit you helped cause!

                    So, no… Your only effectiveness lied in causing this. You’ll have nothing to do with anything that will end it because you don’t understand what’s even happening enough to see it for what it is.

                    So go sit down and see if you can wrap your brain around what it was that you did. Then see if you can muster up the amount of strength it would take to come to terms with it. Then see if you possess the courage to admit it-

                    Then, fucking APOLOGIZE FOR IT.

                    Because I can assure you that very few people will ever consider you or your suggestions relevant until you show the humility it takes to admit you’ve made a mistake.

                    Because THAT is what it takes to brings change.