Israel is a colony. Do I need to explain why showing up to a place, claiming it as your own and violently repressing natives to make it so is bad? Sorry I don’t mean to be snarky, I just wanted to be simple
Which group of people on the planet hasn’t done that?
My ancestors did, as did theirs and yours. Should we all suicide over it, to make it right? Or try and pack ourselves back into where we came from? Get everyone to head back to Sumer?
What’s done is done and not accepting that seems to be the problem to me. For all parties involved.
The problem is that it isn’t done. Its happening right now. This isn’t like the native Americans where they have already been completely displaced and whatnot. Its happening right now before your eyes.
The main solution has been a two state solution. That would be what your saying as “what’s done is done and accept it”
But Israel has rejected a two state solution for its entire existence, and continued colonizing and genociding folk to get the land they claim
That’s right now at this moment. I cannot stress this enough, it’s like going to a native American before the trail of tears and saying “I don’t know, seems like what’s done is done” when we have only just started starving and slaughtering their entire population. There’s so much slaughter left to go.
This isn’t done. Israel is committing a colonizing genocide right now. Today. Right now. Today. Right. Now. Today.
Brother in Christ, do you want to just be pro genocide at that rate? No reason to stop the Holocaust now, it’s basically over, might as well let them finish? Is that the actual position you want to take
I dont agree with that comparison to the holocaust, it’s an insult to its victims. And I dont believe it’s anywhere near over, that’d be the millionth time thats been said in 60 years.
So I dont think you know my position, we obviously have diferent views of objective reality.
It’s not an insult to compare a genocide to a genocide. It’s a genocide. An extermination. The point is to put that weight of history on you. If you cannot bring yourself to see the wholesale slaughter of a people as the same due to who those people are and who’s committing it, that’s a issue.
Doesnt even kind of answer my question.
Israel is a colony. Do I need to explain why showing up to a place, claiming it as your own and violently repressing natives to make it so is bad? Sorry I don’t mean to be snarky, I just wanted to be simple
Which group of people on the planet hasn’t done that?
My ancestors did, as did theirs and yours. Should we all suicide over it, to make it right? Or try and pack ourselves back into where we came from? Get everyone to head back to Sumer?
What’s done is done and not accepting that seems to be the problem to me. For all parties involved.
The problem is that it isn’t done. Its happening right now. This isn’t like the native Americans where they have already been completely displaced and whatnot. Its happening right now before your eyes.
The main solution has been a two state solution. That would be what your saying as “what’s done is done and accept it”
But Israel has rejected a two state solution for its entire existence, and continued colonizing and genociding folk to get the land they claim
That’s right now at this moment. I cannot stress this enough, it’s like going to a native American before the trail of tears and saying “I don’t know, seems like what’s done is done” when we have only just started starving and slaughtering their entire population. There’s so much slaughter left to go.
This isn’t done. Israel is committing a colonizing genocide right now. Today. Right now. Today. Right. Now. Today.
I’d say it’s done, look at the damned place. If that’s not done it’s close enough.
Brother in Christ, do you want to just be pro genocide at that rate? No reason to stop the Holocaust now, it’s basically over, might as well let them finish? Is that the actual position you want to take
I dont agree with that comparison to the holocaust, it’s an insult to its victims. And I dont believe it’s anywhere near over, that’d be the millionth time thats been said in 60 years.
So I dont think you know my position, we obviously have diferent views of objective reality.
It’s not an insult to compare a genocide to a genocide. It’s a genocide. An extermination. The point is to put that weight of history on you. If you cannot bring yourself to see the wholesale slaughter of a people as the same due to who those people are and who’s committing it, that’s a issue.
See, we agree we don’t agree, the end.