cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/34185165
A shooter travels to Manhattan planning to target corporate executives he blames for his health issues. He leaves behind a note that law enforcement won’t release and the news media is happy to quote from selectively but won’t publish.
Sound familiar?
The parallels between Shane Tamura, the 27-year-old Nevada man who killed four people in a Midtown Manhattan office one week ago today, and alleged assassin Luigi Mangione are uncanny. Unlike Mangione, however, Tamura’s victims had nothing to do with his reported health issues. As a result, his rampage was framed as a random act of “senseless violence,” as President Trump declared.
But former friends of Tamura’s that I talked to say there’s more to the story: that his suicide note’s reported claim that “football gave me CTE” is plausible, given his many years as a high school football star.
The classmates, while clearly horrified by Tamura’s actions, are also able to appreciate the likelihood that there’s a public health dimension to the shooting. Wouldn’t it be nice if our elected leaders were capable of that kind of nuance? That’s certainly how I feel about it, and why I hope that the media publishes the notes he left behind: not to glorify anything but to understand what happened and how it might be prevented from happening again.
What little we know about the writing Tamura left behind reportedly includes three separate references to
“You can’t go against the NFL, they’ll squash
“Study my brain please I’m sorry.”
“Terry Long football gave me CTE and it caused my to drink a gallon of antifreeze.”
Terry Long, who played as an offensive lineman for the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 80s and 90s, committed suicide in 2005 by drinking antifreeze. An autopsy revealed that Long had been suffering from CTE.
I am suspicious of the “targeting NFL” claim.
He went to the 33rd floor in the building and killed a Blackstone CEO, Wesley LePatner, “Global Head of Core+ Real Estate and the Chief Executive Officer of Blackstone Real Estate Income Trust (BREIT)” along with the other victims.
I have seen little to no mainstream coverage of this fact, which is mildy suspicious, to say the least. They may have learned from the whole Luigi coverage event and decided to not broadcast this one.
As of right now, there is nothing solidly confirming this, so it is just a conspiracy theory. Definitely within the realm of possibility though.
It doesn’t make too much difference to me whether he was targeting the NFL or Blackstone, either way he showed up with a gun to hold a corporation accountable because he didn’t think our society would ever do so.
If the ruling class doesn’t like that, they can show the people that corporations and billionaires will be held accountable.
Yeah. The NFL aren’t good guys. They’re just running lethal gladiatorial games and suppressing research that in turn enables lower tier lethal gladiatorial games rather than literally kicking people out of homes. One is a more wide reaching evil, but both are killing people for profit and doing so while wearing suits in an air conditioned office tower.
There’s been some mainstream coverage of her death.
The last piece I saw was from CNN about the “shocking lack of empathy” from the public over it, which should say what you need to know about how the establishment feels.
There is evidence against it. He left a note about CTE and the NFL.
What floor is NFL headquarters on?
NFL headquarters are located on the fifth floor of 345 Park Avenue, as outlined by the league.
The National Football League, NFL Enterprises LLC, NFL Properties LLC, NFL Network Services, Inc., and NFL Reg Ops LLC are each located on the fifth floor, while Football Research is located on the sixth floor of the building.
He accidentally went to the 33rd floor instead of the 5th or 6th? Are you saying that doesn’t seem suspect at all?
I know he was mentally ill, but if he was targeting the NFL specifically, how was he that off?
Edit: Conspiracy canceled if this info is truthful:
Some buildings have restricted elevators, or require badge/keycard access to certain floors. I suspect the 33rd floor didn’t, or someone called the elevator to that floor while he was in it.
Because it’s a matter of one button press in an elevator, probably not the difference between walking up 5 vs 33 floors.
Because it’s a matter of one button press in an elevator, probably not the difference between walking up 5 vs 33 floors.
In many large office buildings not all elevators go to all floors. Besides “express” evelvators that only service the upper floors, there are also buildings that used “stacked” or “double decker” that have two cars, one on top of the other:
So in these, one may only “go to” even floors and the other goes to odd. If you are on an even floor and need to to an odd, you’d enter a different elevator on your same floor.
Good info, thanks! Since we know what building it happened in it shouldn’t be too hard for people to investigate this. I am sure somebody will start digging eventually.
If you hit the 5 or 6th floor before 33, it will stop there first. He had the presence of mind to enter the correct building and make it to the 33rd floor.
I am not saying it is a fact that he targeted the CEO, just a realistic possibility.
Which is exactly why, if true, this would be a conspiracy. Right now it is just one of many conspiracy theories.
I mean if the gunman has a note that says “this is why” in his own hand, consistent with contemporary witness accounts from multiple parties - you can say all that’s part of a conspiracy but that’s getting into Qanut territory. A conspiracy that explains nothing, isn’t consistent, and isn’t even complete.
A real “robots are stealing my luggage” conspiracy.
I miss the days when conspiracy theorists would read long books about all aspects of a thing. The Qult did a great job of killing that.
What floor is NFL headquarters on?
NFL headquarters are located on the fifth floor of 345 Park Avenue, as outlined by the league.
The National Football League, NFL Enterprises LLC, NFL Properties LLC, NFL Network Services, Inc., and NFL Reg Ops LLC are each located on the fifth floor, while Football Research is located on the sixth floor of the building.
He accidentally went to the 33rd floor instead of the 5th or 6th?
I know he was mentally ill, but if he was targeting the NFL specifically, how was he that off?
He got on the express elevator. Those start at floor 27 or whatever.
If this is all truthful information, you are absolutely correct.
The locked comments on this video reflect the current public opinion of the situation regardless of the motives, though.
The most glaring example of this is the FBI’s new threat designation, “Nihilistic Violent Extremists” (the existence of which I first reported here). In example after example, the government so labels actions which, like Tamura’s, are of course horrifying; but even a cursory look reveals that they are hardly random or without meaning.
It’s not just the FBI. National Guard sources have told me that they were getting briefings warning about the “nihilistic violent extremist” threat amid the anti-ICE protests in Los Angeles, something that’s about as politically-laden with meaning as one can imagine.
The idea that tragedies like mass shootings happen for no reason at all because life is just random like that, what can ya do — now that’s nihilism.
That’s incredibly fucked up and I’m surprised I hadn’t heard of it.
Just complete denial that there’s any cause. They’ll use this constantly, because they don’t want people to know others have started fighting back.
And as more and more people get to the “nothing left to lose” stage, we’re going to see more of these. It’s literally a natural response to rampant wealth inequality and poverty.
People with nothing to lose, act like it. And that’s bad for everyone else.
A shooter travels to Manhattan planning to target corporate executives he blames for his health issues. He leaves behind a note that law enforcement won’t release and the news media is happy to quote from selectively but won’t publish.
Sound familiar?
The parallels between Shane Tamura, the 27-year-old Nevada man who killed four people in a Midtown Manhattan office one week ago today, and alleged assassin Luigi Mangione are uncanny. Unlike Mangione, however, Tamura’s victims had nothing to do with his reported health issues. As a result, his rampage was framed as a random act of “senseless violence,” as President Trump declared.
But former friends of Tamura’s that I talked to say there’s more to the story: that his suicide note’s reported claim that “football gave me CTE” is plausible, given his many years as a high school football star.
The classmates, while clearly horrified by Tamura’s actions, are also able to appreciate the likelihood that there’s a public health dimension to the shooting. Wouldn’t it be nice if our elected leaders were capable of that kind of nuance? That’s certainly how I feel about it, and why I hope that the media publishes the notes he left behind: not to glorify anything but to understand what happened and how it might be prevented from happening again.
What little we know about the writing Tamura left behind reportedly includes three separate references to
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“You can’t go against the NFL, they’ll squash
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“Study my brain please I’m sorry.”
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“Terry Long football gave me CTE and it caused my to drink a gallon of antifreeze.”
Terry Long, who played as an offensive lineman for the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 80s and 90s, committed suicide in 2005 by drinking antifreeze. An autopsy revealed that Long had been suffering from CTE.
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Is there anything to him shooting a Blackstone CEO , or was that random?
Honest question as I haven’t been following this much.
Random, afaik. Got off on the wrong floor.
That shows any CEO is available for interactions. Just pick a floor way up where the rent is high and make an impression. Neat.