China’s foreign minister said Saturday that Israel has gone too far in responding to last week’s invasion by Hamas, China’s official news agency reported.

Speaking to Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Israel’s actions have extended beyond self-defense.

According to Xinhua, China has an interest in helping resolve the conflict and the underlying issues involving the Palestinian population.

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    Hold up, are you trying to claim that china is so incompetent that they couldnt do the basic levels of investigation that had been common use since the 20s on a massive terrorist attack??

    The US was using this data nationwide in the 60s. Are you genuinely saying china was over 2 decades behind the US for basic investigation capacity?? For a supposed terrorist attack??

    How incompetent are you trying to say china is?

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      At that time, very. That’s actually well known. China’s boom didn’t really start until the early 2000. Which is why America likes to say that they created China.

      But all that is actually not the point. It’s not an issue of incompetence but simply not keeping stacks of useless data about minor forensic differences in bullets. As with most places at that time, you’d just have enough to give you type of gun but not make and manufacturer. I’m not even sure that US would have had it at that time.

      *Edit and China didn’t care at the time because unlike the violent shithole that is America, they didn’t have a lot of gun crime.

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        Ballistics forensics has been considered massive military intel since, again, the 20s. Its considered one of the intel gold standards, it is only useless if youre a fucking moron.

        Its cute that youre pretending this is some useless info, but even a simple google search would show you otherwise. Any country with legal guns keeps detailed records. As you yourself so proudly stated, china had a thriving foreign gun economy. Information about those guns would have been at the tips of any investigations fingers. (It doesnt matter how much gun crime you have, because if you have any gun crime at all you need to id the murder weapon.)

        Especially while investigating a terrorist attack.

        Youre grasping at straws because you didnt read your own source before sending it to me with a bow, not realizing it confirmed what I already told you. Just admit youre lying about the fake terrorists.

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          Like I said, china was backwards in many things at that time. The reason all their weapons were Soviet was because they didn’t know how to even begin to make their own. The Chinese story is one of coming from nothing in the 80s and 90s to becoming a super power in the 20s.

          So yeah, their military definitely didn’t meet the gold standard at that time.

          What about it.

          And thus, again, why China just says fuck you. There’s no reason to let anyone know where in advancement stages china was in.

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            Dude do you understand how unhinged you sound claiming china has no idea what basic crime investigation is?

            Thats like saying they were still using horse drawn carriages. Or didnt have shoes.

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              Wow, such an American thing to say. Hey the world isn’t America, we don’t all have gun violence problems. It shouldn’t be surprising that China didn’t invest in ballistic forensics as much as America did. But to YOU, not having good ballistic forensics is the same as having no idea about basic crime investigation.

              Hey, here’s another secret, crime existed before guns. Crime investigation existed before guns. Not all countries had psychopaths like the US toting guns and shooting everyone that ballistic forensics became important.

              Jesus, you sound ignorant of the real world.

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                It was an international standard set in 1933 by a conference in europe, which the majority of the world participated in. Its not magically uniquely american, other nations also know what forensic science is.

                Hey look, I get youve dug such a deep hole that you need to pretend that america is the only country who can investigate crimes in order to not admit you lied about the terrorist thing. But you sound like an idiot pretending china was some undeveloped proto nation.

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                  Ah yes Europe, the Asianest of continents. Wait no it’s not. One of the problems China had was that the west wasn’t sharing all the data with them. It’s cute again that the west thinks they’re the international world. But guess what, Asia never felt that way. It’s literally one of the dividing issues. Again, so ignorant.

                  *Edit: Also it’s important to note that I’m not saying China couldn’t match a barrel to a gun. I’m saying China didn’t have this magical database that could let it identify to the manufacturer. It simply wasn’t important to China at the time to match to manufacturer. If they found the murder weapon it was enough for them to identify the murderer.

                  *Edit 2: Wait in 1933 was just the standardization of how to identify barrel to gun. There was no database at that time. You’re just makin stuff up to trick me. WHEN DID THIS MAGICAL DATABASE EXIST!?

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                    China was involved in the conference, so I dont think they felt left out of the party they were present at. Manufacturer identification is older than barrel id. Barrel id is matching a specific bullet to a specific gun.

                    … Every country makes its own database, honey. There isnt a single database. This isnt a video game, its the real world.