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    It is a major turnaround for Musk, who previously said he wouldn’t let Jones back on the platform despite repeated calls to do so. Last year, Musk pointed to the death of his first-born child and tweeted, “I have no mercy for anyone who would use the deaths of children for gain, politics or fame.”

    Thankfully for him, his sycophants have the memories of goldfish.

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      Musk pointed to the death of his first-born child

      He lied about his first-born dying in his arms, to win an internet argument:

      Elon Musk’s ex-wife refutes his claim that firstborn child died in his arms … ‘And not that it matters to anyone except me, because it is one of the most sacred and defining moments of my life, but I was the one who was holding him’

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/justine-musk-elon-musk-dying-son-b2234938.html

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      It’s easy, considering his knobgobblers are the same sort of people who make up shit to forgive Trump for everything possible. They just have to tell themselves “well Alex Jones didn’t do that, he was framed by LIBRULS”

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      “…I have no mercy for anyone who would use the deaths of children…”

      Apparently he has mercy for such people now.

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        I remember some people saying, “nah, you don’t see it from his perspective, if your son’s life was in trouble and you owned the platform, you’d do the same thing”

        I kinda hate that logic because it assumes I’d say the stupid shit enough to put myself into that situation. Not to mention his family’s life wasn’t actually in danger.

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          Several people posted proof of him lying about that also, but even if he wasn’t, the only thing that changed was he got a full helping of how “free speech absolutism” personally affects him, and maybe that it’s not such a great idea?

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    Still a long way to go to be considered a “free speech absolutist”.

    He has failed since the start on that front.

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      I’ll start considering his claim of being a “free speech absolutist” when he unbans the account that uses publicly available information to track his private plane.

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            His aircraft took a 9 minute flight. Elon was not necessarily on board. Sometimes aircraft are moved for logistical reasons.

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              Funny, I never hear of large commercial airliners making 9-minute flights for logistical reasons? What logistical reason would that be beyond ‘Elon doesn’t want to travel all the way to that airport when there’s a closer one?’

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                Aircraft are moved all the time for logistical reasons. These are known as “empty leg flights”.

                For example if you will fly from Chicago to NY, but your charter plane will arrive and disembark in Milwaukee. After disembarking, it will take a short flight empty between the two airports.

                And all of this is transparent to the passengers. It’s not like the charter company says, “Hey if you meet the plane in Milwaukee you can save us the fuel”. Kind of like when you call a taxi, the dispatcher doesn’t tell you how far the taxi had to drive empty in order to pick you up.

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                  Yes, from Chicago to New York, fine. This is from one airport in the San Francisco area to another airport in the San Francisco area. Give me the logistical reason for that.

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              Someone start telling him how much of a badass Tom Cruise is for doing his own stunts.

              “Elron, Tom Cruise can ride a motorcycle off a cliff and pop a parachute! Can you do that?”

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        So if I could slap an ankle bracelet on you and upload your location with a five second delay, on a highly accessible public forum, you would be okay with that? Haha.

        Someone on Twixer saying, “Trans people are disgusting and they shouldn’t be allowed in opposite sex bathrooms” Isn’t the same thing as, “Here’s where Elon’s private jet is currently. Lawl”

        Some of you got mushed dog food for brains.

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          Locations on ankle bracelets are not publicly available information. The FAA tracks every plane over U.S. airspace and offers that information in real time because it isn’t classified. All the Twitter account did was take the specific information offered about Musk’s plane and reported on where it went.

          So you are not talking about anything even remotely equivalent. This is information anyone can find out any time they want.

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            Exactly right. Not only that, but Musk’s location is not the same thing as the location of Musk’s plane.

            So instead of ankle bracelet, a better analogy would be, “What if you took the #34 bus to work, and I started reporting the real time location of the #34 bus on Twitter?” My answer would be, “Be my guest”.

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          The thing about absolutism is that it doesn’t leave room for nuance. If you say you’re a bodily autonomy absolutist you need to deal with the fact that some people will wish to hurt themselves and that’s included. Free speech absolutism includes doxing, it includes everything. It’s saying “if someone can physically say it, I support their right to do so.” And if that sounds like an insane position to take, yeah usually absolutism is impractical at best and lunacy at worst. We know that what he wants is a platform where bigotry is welcome. We’re just presenting the reality of what it is that he claims to be.

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          Every time I fly my plane with my pilot’s license I strap an ankle bracelet “on” (I admit I have to turn on my ADSBlol ) and upload that location with a 5 second delay on one of the most popular websites for aviation.

          FlightAware tracks all the flights that I’ve ever made and there’s an app for it.

          Why do you think this is a problem? You might have dog food for brains… 🤣

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          So if I could slap an ankle bracelet on you and upload your location with a five second delay

          You’re missing an entire point here. If the law indicates what you’ve said, then I don’t get a say in if I’m okay with it or not. And if I honestly didn’t like that, and this is the entire point, I would seek to have the law changed.

          If Elon honestly hates the FAA’s reporting requirement, instead of picking on someone who is just using the information, he should seek actual legislation to have it changed.

          That’s the entire point. Elon is just picking on a person with the tool Elon actually has control over. Elon isn’t actually seeking meaningful legislative change.

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      I don’t think anyone serious or sensible believed that Elton was out to achieve that.

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    I’m now convinced he has been replaced by an AI that has been fueled on Reddit comments

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      He hasn’t changed. He just broke the one rule rich people have. “Don’t talk to poor people”.