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    In a world where everyone else in an NPC, everything lines up to prevent me from getting the nice thing I want within a short time of saving, yet again.

    Y’all I don’t think this is the good place, and it sure ain’t earth

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    Musk LOVED that tax credit until he used it all up, now wants to deny other automakers the subsidy that saved his ass again and again.

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    …Tesla - by far the nation’s biggest EV maker - have told a Trump-transition committee they support ending the subsidy…Elon Musk, one of Trump’s biggest backers and the world’s richest person, said in July that killing the subsidy might slightly hurt Tesla sales but would be “devastating” to its U.S. EV competitors, which include legacy automakers such as General Motors.

    Jesus. So much for the idea that Tesla is working to accelerate the transition from ICE vehicles to EVs.

    I will never buy a fucking Tesla. Ever. I would buy a Chevrolet Equinox EV, and I encourage anyone who is in the market for a new vehicle to buy one before the tax credit goes away.

    Edit: I would also get the Honda Prologue. It’s also eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. So is the Volkswagen ID.4.

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      Don’t discount the other autos lobbyists. Some have invested heavily in new factories being built and have many more workers in the US combined. Not to mention they can keep selling gas guzzlers till we burn the planet.

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      I’ll honestly buy a Toyota, Honda or Hyundai before I ever buy a GM.

      The first two are built here in North America and give jobs directly to my friends.

      GM and fuck off an die. They’ve turned out turds for 30 years now and don’t deserve to be helped to stay afloat.

      The only legacy NA car manufacturer I’d consider is Ford.

      But yeah, you’d be a goof to invest in a Tesla vehicle at this point.

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        The Prologue and Equinox are a joint venture between Honda and Chevrolet!

        As a Canadian I would never buy a GM product because of the shit they pulled after 2008.

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        My Chevy Volt is great and was one of the best reviewed hybrids. Still untouched on battery range, I think. And GM’s battery management system is top notch. Heater in my volt is shit unless I’m running ICE, though.

        Wouldn’t buy a GMC, but Chevy has never really done me wrong. Cadillac seems overpriced for a rebadged Chevy.

        Ford’s got good stuff but I’ve never really owned one since the Escort. Guess I might if they ever transition me from contractor to full employee.

        Chrysler… has a van. Guess it’s been fine but I’ll personally never get another one.

        Probably never buy a Japanese car unless those plants are staffed by UAW. I hear they are good but I’ve never been in one that seemed any better than an American car.

        I would never, ever buy a fucking Hyundai. I’ve been in two and they were the most cheap pieces of garbage I’ve ever seen. But I guess they were cheap pieces of garbage. They might’ve gotten better since I was only in the first couple of model years.

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          Wouldn’t buy a GMC but Chevy is ok? The money goes in the same pocket buddy, they’re the same cars with different badges!

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            The fuck? I drove a mid-80’s Escort wagon. I raced against my friend’s Chevette once. Pedal to the metal and we still haven’t made it past 40mph.

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        I was just trying to think of models that are eligible for the maximum $7,500 tax credit, and that are relatively affordable. There are lots of great EVs out there from several different manufacturers.

        Edit: I will mention, though, the Equinox EV looks like it’s a pretty good car, for the price. Car and Driver rated it 8.5/10.

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      After driving several Chevy vehicles over the years, I’d never buy one myself. Would definitely not trust them to make a good EV.

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        I feel like these companies have the real nerds who know what they’re doing working on the EVs. I have nothing to back that up with though.

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    It’s profit margin

    7.5k on a 30k EV is huge, and would lead to lots of sales.

    No one stupid enough to pay 110k for a cyber shit will car about a 7.5k tax credit.

    So Tesla might take a little hit, but it’s a huge disadvantage for affordable EVs

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      Tesla could have pursued an affordable model, but instead Elon pushed the robotaxi, and Elon said there was no need for an affordable Tesla model. If we assume that he actually expects to release the robotaxi at some point, and that he actually thinks it’s important for anything other than trying to pump up stock, then it certainly looks like his plans are more focused on fleet sales than trying to sell to consumers. Making cars less affordable across the board (and slashing any funding for public transportation) only helps that business model.

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        I think I saw a snippet from his biography where Franz (head designer) convinced Elon to make the car so it could also have a steering wheel so as to not get fucked if fsd doesn’t work out.

        Supposedly took a lot of effort to convince him.

        Guess that didn’t pan out in the end. Nothing about that car is designed for non robotaxi use.

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        Lots of people will never buy a Tesla, but when you order an Uber and that shitshow appears, you can only cancel so many times before the app gets mad at you for it.

        Human drivers was always a temporary thing for those apps, they’ll keep squeezing human drivers so they don’t have to pay maintenance on vehicles, but the second Muskmobiles becomes popular, there goes the closest thing to a job that’s been keeping a lot of people afloat.

        There’s going to be a real negative effect when those disappear, even tho they’re barely jobs to begin with.

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    Well no shit he’s going to kill the tax credit. What did Musk think he was going to do? He’ll probably kill off the space program too.

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      Don’t kid yourself… Project 2025 section on transportation suggests removing nearly all federal funding to alternative transport modes in place of state by state funding, and the only thing that 95% of State DoTs know how to do is build and widen roads.

      Page 621:

      If funding must be federal, it would be more efficient for the U.S. Congress to send transportation grants to each of the 50 states and allow each state to purchase the transportation services that it thinks are best. Such an approach would enable states to prioritize different types of transportation according to the needs of their citizens. States that rely more on automotive transportation, for example, could use their funding to meet those needs.

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        Implying cars will be affordable after tariffs. Cars from the past ten years are unreliable as hell. Everything before that is getting ran into the ground. Most people are priced out of the new car market.

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          If there’s no alternative transport, people will be forced to buy cars at any price, preferably with a predatory loan. I don’t think making cars more expensive is going to have the effect of making everyone cyclists if there’s no investment in infrastructure to enable this.