How would that even work? At what point do you charge the tariff?
I think this is good. It will help local (outside the US) artistic industries space to flourish without being threatened by Hollywood.
Movies all over the world face inmence pressure form competing from Hollywood, buy without that pressure, they could focus on their local strengths instead.
Yeah USians are probably fucked though, but it’s kinda bad to feel bad for the facists and their enablers.
I was under the impression that they film a great deal of movies in Canada because it costs far less than filming anywhere else. We also have places that look very modern while maintaining very gothic cities and all of the land in between that could be filmed to look like many places abroad. So he’s costing the film industry the savings that they have gotten used to by filming in Canada. Art of the deal.
Apart from the point that this would be illegal (he won’t know or care, but it is), imagine other countries responding in kind? At least our country imports more media from the US than we produce on our own. And the return tarrifs costs and losses caused by that would also hit primarily US companies like Netflix, Disney, Amazon, AplleTV…
Explain to me how the fuck does this fix the economy?…
Making people poorer helps the rich get richer
Ah yes that correct!
I don’t think that’s what he’s trying to do.
Ok? This is current year, I can just use a VPN to stream foreign movies.
I am so tired of all the BS this regime keeps throwing at everything.
I’m getting so sick of this guy.
As a dual US and EU citizen, good!* European movies are better than that Hollywood shit anyway.
*for the record, neither this nor anything else Trump is doing is actually good.
Uh, ok, what?
Are we trying to drown out foreign influence now? Like, idk, China? North Korea?
Media is our biggest GDP dollar. Donnie is playing with fire here. I’d bet my life savings he backs down, like he has on everything else.
Maybe he’s talking about movies shot in Canada? I think a lot (no idea of an actual percentage) of movies are shot in Vancouver.
A lot of TV shows and movies are made in Canada because our dollar is worth less, so American companies get more value for their money.
Québec has done a lot of VFX for movies too. Hallmark movies often film in northern Ontario.
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The US being by far the biggest exporter of movies, the only way this makes sense is that Trump is not seeing enough ass-kissing (and
bribescampaign donations) from the US movie industry, so he’s actively trying to damage them.Claim foreign movies are a threat, wait for other countries to retaliate against US movies, sit back and watch
bribessales of $TRUMP grow as the major studios seek his political favor.I mean at least this is one of the situations where at its base a tariff makes sense in an industry protectionist way. Its not like putting insane tariffs on goods we dont even manufacture here whatsoever, which is just stupid.
That said, a 100% tariff is just mind bogglingly stupid dick-swinging in this already hostile trade environment. It would make more sense if it was like 5%. Not something that will make the world boycott our media
I mean at least this is one of the situations where at its base a tariff makes sense in an industry protectionist way
Except for the fact that - under no circumstances - do you need tariffs to protect a wildly successful industry. That makes no sense because there’s nothing to protect against. It can literally only do harm.
It’s probably just racism.
Which will result in retaliation against US movies, thus further undermining the US’s unparalleled soft power.
This man is doing literally everything Putin could ever want.
And probably demanded
Movies and TV shows are the US’s cultural export. It helps keep us front of mind. They are essentially asking for retaliation where the US is erased from all foreign screens.
As a non American, that kind of sounds like a good thing tbh. US cultural exportation is why the MAGA right is popping up all over the west
I mean, I would think it’s the billionaire financiers that are directly funding the right, but the movies probably don’t help.
Another “Trump said” that should be ignored.
How would this even work? Tariffs function by holding the physical items in customs, until the tax is paid. But a licensing deal on a digital good, that can be transfered undetected over the internet, is impossible to teriff. You could tax it other ways, but 100% of what. The distribution license? The copyright?
I guarantee he hasn’t thought about any of this, and as such this mindless utterance a can be safely ignored.
The more logical choice would be to tax the distribution license sold by non American entities.
The thing that makes this unenforceable is that what he means is that he wants to tax movies not filmed fully in the US even if they are American movies.
Sure I’ll accept I got all the details wrong. That doesn’t really matter to my point.
My point is that this is another example of him saying something so stupid, that it shouldn’t get any media coverage.Point taken, but this isn’t just a “covfefe moment” though. This is newsworthy because Trump just obliterated half of all money in Hollywood. Gone, reduced to atoms.
Culture is one of the main things that the US exports across the world, and this puts a big old smoking hole in our feet in that regard. This will have tangible repercussions.
This is newsworthy because Trump just obliterated half of all money in Hollywood.
Did he? I thought this was something he just said. Did he sign an executive order or take any action to make it happen?
He says shit all the time, and actually tries to do less than 5% of it.
Sure I’ll accept I got all the details wrong. That doesn’t really matter to my point.
This made me chuckle.
On some level this is a good thing. Many American movies are low level oligarch propaganda (e.g. The “Tony Stark” character in Iron Man).
We shouldn’t be funding what is essentially a proto-fascist state. While there are many sane Americans, they have yet to prove that they have the risk tolerance to fight back effectively. From my experience living in the US, American culture isn’t really suited for that kind of thing.
Is the “we” in this Canada or Mexico or something?
I’m not following. If Trump’s incoherent ramblings are to be generously interpreted, he wants all production to move back to the states. Currently many countries, and states, have huge tax incentives and other government handouts to encourage filming on their ground. If they all go back to that states, the American Companies lose that free foreign money, and depending on how it all shakes out, states will still be paying out tax incentives. At least for awhile as the industry finds a new home.
That’s all extremely hypothetical to try and understand Trump.
The We refers to the rest of the world.
What Trump is saying is irrelevant. Best to not pay for American media. Subscribe to your local streaming companies that offer content in your local language, watch movies and series from other countries. A dollar to America is a dollar to supporting fascism.
And not all of it works on a tax incentive basis. Here in Ukraine the cost differential alone was enough to attract film productions (pre-full scale russian invasion of course).
If sane Americans get their house in order (not Biden or Harris style bullshit, but real anti-corruption programs that decapitate the US oligarchy), then that’s another discussion. But that is a big if.
As a film technician in Canada, I sadly can’t be so strict. Yeah I swapped deodorant, Ceasar dressing, energy drinks, cancelled my Prime and Uber, but I got to make a living.
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For sure, every small bit counts. Power in numbers.
A single person dropping all American spend does nothing. 100 million people cutting down US directed spend by 25% is going to hurt.
This guy is playing a board game and losing to a toddler.