• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    Here is the only issue I have with the pardon. Once Kamala lost, Biden should have started to go hog wild with last minute shenanigans in order to give Americans things they actually need. Instead he decided to pardon Hunter a full month before leaving office rather than helping us out and doing the pardon on the last day. Now, even if he does do things that will help Americans, nobody will notice because of the pardon.

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      Now, even if he does do things that will help Americans, nobody will notice because of the pardon.

      I don’t know why you’re so concerned for Genocide Joe’s legacy, but if his last 47 months are any indication, he’s unlikely to uncharacteristically give Americans what they actually need in his 48th.

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        Not my buddy Jim Crow Joe, it’s these damn Republican fascists he considers his friends who won’t let him make America great again

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        Eh, he’s been pretty good over all. We’ve had better, though the list of worse Presidents is a bit longer. Over all, Joe did step up and get more done than expected for what felt like a forced square into a round hole situation. What he might not have done was solve YOUR issues.

        The issue wasn’t his full term. The issue became his last handful of months and the absolute atrocity that is the DNC communication strategy.

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          I think the absolute atrocity was the genocide in Israel but then again I’m not a democrat.

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            I’m not saying it’s okay, but to give some historical context, literally every president of the past 80 years and the next 5 presidents would have and will do what Biden has done towards Israel.

            It’s part of America’s foreign policy, which means there’s literally nothing we can do about, anyone hanging ones hat upon that alone is foolish. It sucks a lot and fuck Israel, but having America taking a hard-line against Israel is like asking water to stop being wet or Matt Gaetz to stop looking punchable

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              I’m not saying it’s okay, but to give some historical context, literally every president of the past 80 years and the next 5 presidents would have and will do what Biden has done towards Israel.

              Ronald fucking Reagan forced Israel into a ceasefire with Lebanon, Syria, and the Palestine Liberation Organization. And it was a real ceasefire, unlike the current joke of a ceasefire Israel has with Lebanon that it keeps violating, and it held for a long-ass time.

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              Well, except REAGAN of all people, who told them to settle the fuck down on Lebanon, called it a genocide, and got the IOF to back off.

              Ronald “AIDS is no concern, fuck the working class” Reagan was better on Israel than Joe Biden.

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              he was pretty good

              he did some genocide but that is normal

              You should do some self-criticism ASAP before you get correctly called a racist fascist.

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                This chancellor was pretty good, not a fan of his immigration policy but how about that Autobahn?

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                  They were planned in 20’s and during III Reich only around 15% of the plan was complete, their importance was very limited because not many Germans had cars and overwhelming most of transportation both civilian and military was done by trains, but the PR was colossal and all the fash ever since masturbate to it (i know your post was ironic, but to add some context for people that might not get it).

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              It’s part of America’s foreign policy, which means there’s literally nothing we can do about.

              incorrect we did exactly what we needed to do. we fired him for it (among other reasons). unfortunately harris didn’t pick up on the message and as a result also wasnt hired as a result. enjoy your fascism.

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            I don’t disagree with why, I do disagree with the timing. Yes, it was a hardline issue and yes the Dems should have absolutely done whatever they could to deal with it. What I cannot and will never forgive is risking the fucking planet by placing a very likely dictator into the seat of global military superiority. Fucking vote Harris in and then we have four years of dropkicking every politician we see to deal with it.

            Now there is every chance that conflict will worsen, or end abruptly.

            Four years to work together and make positive change by not constantly bickering. Instead we have several States and governers vouching to protect our rights and your fucking neighbors against the President and his cronies.

            Gaza AND Ukraine are important. We should do what we can do. Fucking Trump though and his evil passing posse of terrible twats?? Come the fuck on. That was NOT the correct direction, my dude. Four god damned years and instead you all chose January.

            What a disappointment.

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      His administration is hopeless at messaging anyway so no one has known nor will they know anything Biden has done.

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      They’d notice if he had Trump and all his goons disappeared to a black site… You know, as an official act… Against terrorism and traitors even

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      I think Biden should have gone hog wild with shenanigans that Americans actually need 4 years ago, but you’re right that now would still be a good time.

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      They’re already trying to finalize rules, complete process do previously passed initiatives can be nailed down. The government can be very slow, and that’s a good thing for stability and fairness. It’s especially good to reduce the promised dumpster fire of the next four years.

      Is there really anything he can start at this point that would have lasting effects? Going hog wild with shenanigans may be satisfying but not likely to do anything more than create headlines

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        I feel like creating headlines is sort of what the Democratic party needs right now though. They just lost what should be a slam dunk election largely because a bunch of people just didn’t show up. Flashy headlines probably make at least some of those people show up.