America is going to miss Lina Khan a lot in the next 4 years.
When will we start holding these people accountable? It is easy to say “corporations are bad” and then sit on your hands. It’s different to start calling out the people who ultimately make the corporations evil.
We have whole classes of people comfortable fucking people over – sometimes with deadly consequences.
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There are hardly any restrictions on them nothing is stopping you. Don’t use that as an excuse when we see mass shootings on TV almost every week. It’s only poor people that die from gun violence usually
Guns are useful for a fearful populace, to give them the illusion of some kind of control.
How’d Afghanistan turn out?
Then why do cops have them?
For dogs, mostly.
For state violence.
Cops love the illusion of control. That’s the job description
If cops only have the illusion of control then I still want whatever cops have.
At the end of the day they just do as they are told. They report to someone
You are going to love America.
Yeah, if they’re talking about restrictive laws when it comes to gun ownership, there’s no chance they have to deal with UnitedHealth.
Are the restrictive laws in the room with you?
*blinks T O R T U R E in morse code
One of the more ridiculous reasons I’ve seen for even less regulations on guns
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This shit is straight up evil, will the company be held accountable for their crimes? This is what our justice system is for. Based on what we know so far, more crimes would be bound to come out in an investigation.
Luigi held them accountable, let’s hope for more
Allegedly
The justice system that just allowed a convicted criminal to run out the clock on a heinous crime and become president
It’s not the justice system, it’s the legal system
Can we start using the justice system instead, then?
That system seems to be malfunctioning severely. Bypassing that system has physical risks to the user and should not be attempted lightly.
That system seems to be malfunctioning severely.
Pressing all buttons I can reach to doubt this take.
Even if they’re held to account there just gonna Texas two step and declare bankruptcy.
And then spin up another subsidiary and start over,
I wish it wasn’t the case. "Corporations are people too should go both ways… Death penalty if you do evil enough crimes.
Individuals who committed these crimes on behalf of the company should be charged with fraud a the very least.
From where I’m sitting, the justice system seems to be more interested in investigating poor individuals than rich companies. I can’t think of many modern examples of rich companies (or even people) being held accountable for something that didn’t involve stealing from other rich people.
There’s examples but they aren’t proportional. Oh, a company with 3 billion in revenue poisoned the water supply for a whole county? Let’s fine them $10 million.
That definitely teaches them a lesson about consequences, except the lesson is that they don’t matter.
US Government: Best I can do is a slap on the wrist to the tune of about 0.0000001% of their yearly profits and a hardy, “don’t do that.”
Just fucking write “tenfold”, Jesus fuck.
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I’m an idiot
Unchecked capitalism is really something, huh?
We’ve tried capitalism 1000 different ways and we are out of ideas!
What is “1k%?”
1000%
Why are people struggling with this so hard?
Solve for x
Because it’s a stupid, non standard way to say it. I understood it fine but I still thought it was a needless abbreviation.
K = kilo, which stands for 1000. It’s extremely standard. Saying it’s stupid is like saying $ or π or & or # or % is stupid.
1k is a common way to shorten 1,000. And 1,000% is an acceptable way to say 10x. But 1k% is definitely a stupid abbreviation that nobody uses.
Non standard. That is all.
Why are you not upset by it?
Because the meaning is obvious?
It’s literally the stupidest possible way to write it
Not when M% exists
Okay. I don’t typically get that caught up in the formatting of a number if the meaning is clear. 1k means 1000 in basically every context, and a unit indicator doesn’t make it more confusing to me. Are you likewise baffled by something being written as “1km”?
But % is not a unit.
1 * 10^3
10x what they should’ve paid
Yeah 1000% is 10x but they were charged 11x what they should have paid. Overcharged by (over) 10x.
11 times what they should have paid unless you think that “overcharging by 100%” would be charging exactly the right price or if you feel that all medication should be
freesomewhat cheaper. Or more expensive. Whichever way the math works for that.They were charged 11x what they should have paid. they were overcharged 10x, because they would still have been expected to pay the original (1x) charge.
The 1k% refers to the overcharge, so they are technically correct.
Ah I suppose so.
Like everyone else here, I also hate this use of a percentage.
It’s better than “0.01 cents” used to mean “1 cent”
I don’t think “0.01 cents” ever meant 1 cent. $0.01 or 0.01 dollars would be 1 cent.
Yeah, about that. Bit of a throwback but: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MShv_74FNWU
So people are going to jail over this and proper hard measures are going to be taken to address the obvious imbalance of power that allows companies like this to do this over and over again right? They’re not just going to give the company another slap on the wrist fine that won’t even cover how much money they’ve stolen from people, leaving them still making a profit for doing this and leaving the door wide open for more abuse like that to happen over and over again, right?
Right?
Archive: https://archive.ph/7vHah
UnitedHealth, employer of slain exec Brian Thompson
Not quite correct sort of. This is OptumRx, which is owned by United Health Group, which also owns United Health Care, which Brian Thompson was nominally the CEO of. In other words, this is like the sibling of the company Brian Thompson ran.
To be clear, Brian Thmpson wasn’t a billionaire, he was a mid-level at best millionaire worth only $41 million. He was just another star-bellied prole who thought he was in the aristocracy.
Point being, the whole thing is stupid. The health care system, the people getting rich off it, Luigi’s reaction to it, our reactions to it, the media’s reporting on it, all of it.
What part about our reaction, or Luigi’s, is stupid? Is it maybe, just maybe, totally justifiable anger?
Justifiable anger can be stupid and usually is.
As many people here can tell you, I am not cheering on the idea of assassinating CEOs as a way of making systemic change because I simply do not think it will work.
That said, I 100% sympathize with Luigi Mangione and I 100% understand exactly why he did what he did. He was driven to the breaking point by a heartless company that, like all healthcare companies and, in fact, all for-profit companies in America that put their profits over human health and life.
He was desperate and driven to the brink of madness by the system that should have been helping him. Of course he did what he did. I’m honestly amazed someone hadn’t done it sooner.
I still don’t think it will solve a damn thing, and neither will killing a half dozen more healthcare CEOs if that happens, but I will totally understand if it happens again and likely sympathize with the killer.
What are you trying to say? That you could do a better job then Luigi?
Brian Thompson was accessible and his location was known. Probably why Luigi allegedly went after him.
Americans love their health insurance providers
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Please don’t violate LW’s ToS. Be aware of what you’re posting publicly. This is not a bar with your friends. This is the internet where things are recorded forever and can possibly link back to you/us with consequences. It’s not that hard to express yourself without breaking the rules.
What did they do that broke ToS? It looks like the post may have been edited
Nothing yet. I’m just hoping people think a little before they do things to get banned/removed. The rules are for everyone’s benefit.
This is a post that will rightfully make people angry.
EvErYoNe’s BeNeFiT
The greater good
Yeah, it turns out threats of terrorism can look bad for you if they’re ever uncovered.
Serinus is correct. They are rules to the benefit of everyone who wishes Lemmy.world to stay up which, since you’re here, presumably includes you.
The server is in The Netherlands. The Netherlands does not have freedom of speech. Calling for violence is illegal there.
If mods left calls for violence up all the time, there’s a good chance Lemmy.world could get shut down. Considering how much you participate here, I’m guessing you would not care for that.
Edit: Always love it when this explanation gets downvotes but the downvoters don’t actually chime in and say that yeah, they’d be fine if Lemmy.world gets shut down as long as they get to say what they want, when they want, wherever they want. Maybe if you just admitted it instead of getting pissed off at someone pointing out that speech can have negative consequences…
Always love it when this explanation gets downvotes but the downvoters don’t actually chime in and say that yeah, they’d be fine if Lemmy.world gets shut down as long as they get to say what they want, when they want, wherever they want. Maybe if you just admitted it instead of getting pissed off at someone pointing out that speech can have negative consequences
Why, when you understand the meaning with a simple downvote?
Don’t call a place .world and then host it somewhere with pathetic laws regarding the main topic of the website: speech. Well, unless you want everyone else to rightfully call out the stupidity and patheticness of such a move
There’s your reply
Ohhhh. That makes more sense now. Thank you for clarifying :)
