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      I don’t think Elon gives a fuck. He’s tricked everyone he needs to into giving him billions of dollars. He isn’t going to give any of it back. He’s laughed all the way to the bank.

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        Feel the same way. He basically has the US Treasury now, and can do whatever he wants with his DOGE, I doubt he cares about Tesla.

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    Well I don’t want to celebrate in advance, Model Y facelift just released, let’s hope this trend continues and doesn’t show a reversal.

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    Good.

    Say what you will about faceless corps, but toyota won’t send some jackass out a the public face to do sieg hail, and be the gleeful butcher of government programs.

    You have to be nestel levels of horrific before it breaks out of the corporate bubble.

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      I seriously question the mental stability of Tesla shareholders. Why on Earth does that man still have a job?

      I’m not even talking about this recent stuff, I’m talking about all the things he’s been doing for the last few years. It would get any normal person fired.

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      If you have the money to buy a Tesla I don’t think you’re someone who cares what people think one way or the other. You don’t need to care about public opinion with that kind of income.

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    Lemmy, this is the 7th day in a row you’ve shown “Tesla sales down in Europe” news in Top.

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      We have this, crap copied from twitter or crap copied from reddit. Take your pick. :)

      To be serious for a minute, I do wish there was more discussions and not just circle jerking. Its funny how everyone left the big platforms but still discusses the exact same things.

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        Doesn’t make my comment not true.

        And I don’t filter or block anything or anyone. Rawdogging Lemmy, the way God intended.

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            There’s no point in blocking everything. I’m interested in what’s happening with Trump and the US, with Tesla, the occasional Linux news, but when my feed is 90% “Why Linux is actually good”, “Musk/Trump bad”, “Tesla shares in EU down again” for the fifth time, it gets annoying. Blocking stuff is too crude a tool.

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          My instance has the same attitude. But of course its easier when being small with hundreds of users rather than thousands.

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      Is there a Canadian version of paypal that works the same way? I was searching but couldn’t find one and ever since AI came around my business shrank to almost nothing. Also, other than having an old nearly defunct facebook account, what $ would I be unwittingly giving to Zuckerberg? Serious and naïve question.

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      I actively boycott Zuckerberg’s offerings bar WhatsApp coz the bastard bought it out from under us. Fuck him, fuck Meta

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        In Europe, sepa transfers are free and instant transfers will be mandatory free from October.

        To pay in e-commerce, revolut has unlimited one-use cards, no need for PayPal.

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        Germany tries to make one every two years. The newest one is called Wero/kwitt

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        Do you need one?

        I recently deleted my PayPal account and use a virtual credit card instead.

        So far no issues with paying. In the rare case that credit card is not available you can always pay without account in PayPal via credit card.

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          A virtual credit card? Is that something your bank offers, or how would one go about getting it?

          The reason I originally got PayPal is because many sites don’t accept debet cards so I often had no way to pay at all.

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            It’s a credit or debit card where you can change the number at any time. Prevents shady online shops from loosing your credit card details. Revolut and N26 offer it for example.

            Of course, the shop still has to accept credit/debit cards or you have to go though PayPal as guest.

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          You went back to the banking industry and you report this event as a good thing?

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            You are telling me you are paying via PayPal without involving the banking industry?

            I have the choice to either tell PayPal and my bank what I’m buying or just my bank. I chose the latter.

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        And wero from European paiement initiative that regroup all major french and german bank.

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          Far as I know it’s more of a send money from phone to phone thing for now. My bank supports it, but it’s only an option in the app which I don’t use.
          It is especially sad since it was meant to replace giropay, which actually was more like Paypal than wero is.
          Let’s hope it is just a matter of time.

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            It will be open later to shop and eshop. Probably around 2026. I saw a élog post about their roadmap.

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        Yes, you are right, not anymore, I don’t trust it though as it was founded by not only Peter Thiel but also Elon Musk.

        PayPal blocks accounts that are politically controversial, such as some alternative media outlets, cryptocurrency platforms, or activists. Also Whistleblower organizations like WikiLeaks have been blocked and their funds frozen.

        For these reasons I find a boycott completely justified.

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              Please actually read the article

              The company was originally established by Max Levchin, Peter Thiel, and Luke Nosek in December 1998 as Fieldlink. Later it was renamed Confinity,[9] a company which developed security software for hand-held devices.[10] When it had no success with that business model, it switched its focus to a digital wallet.[11] The first version of the PayPal electronic payments system was launched in 1999.[12]

              In March 2000, Confinity merged with X.com, an online financial services company founded in March 1999 by Elon Musk, Harris Fricker, Christopher Payne, and Ed Ho.

              Musk founded a company that merged with the company that invented PayPal.

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                As Wikipedia lists him as a founder i think it’s ok for me to call him that as well. But of course, you can insist on the loooooong explanation that he founded a company that merged with another company and the merged one finally became Paypal.

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    Each time I see a new article about drop in sales, the percentage is higher. I love it.

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      I think it’s the first time in my life I routinely check in on the stock value of a company, and it’s pure Schadenfreude.

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      I keep thinking it’s same article being reposted before noticing the drop is 10-15% greater than the last time I saw it. I hope he’s kicked from Europe entirely.

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    Deliver is not the same as sales. They are also launching a new model this summer so people could just be waiting. I know it’s a great news story, Europe bands together against Musk to show dissatisfaction with American politics, but it may not be true. If someone could find Tesla reports that delivers are far lower than expected I will change my mind.

    I wanted to find their predictions for production in Q1 2025 to see if they planned for less deliveries before all this Musk hit the news cycle. The closest I got as 2024 Q2 production numbers. https://ir.tesla.com/press-release/tesla-vehicle-production-deliveries-and-date-financial-results-webcast-second-quarter-2024

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      I mean he’s become a whole lot richer. Tesla is just a casualty. Why he hasn’t been ousted from the board or sued by investors, I don’t understand.

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      It’s been said more than once, that Musk isn’t an asset to a company but a liability. Tesla didn’t succeed because of Musk but despite him.

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    Tesla is a meme stock in the disguise of a car company. It being down 30% means little, if anything volatility is good for big market players. Allows them to fleece more people. In a month Trump will announce a big tesla contract and it’ll go back up.

    Or so I tell myself because pessimism is easier to live with.